Raiders vs SF...the post mortem

[Rabidraider]

Trade Kirk, Start Mendoza

Trade Maxx

Fire the DC

[Sir Raider Duck, OMS]

I think it's unlikely that a DC change happens in-season, but we're heading for an offseason change - barring a shocking turnaround.

There was nothing wrong IMHO with promoting Leonard to the DC job initially. He's proven a top positional coach, so why not give him a shot?

But this is a production business, and he seriously needs to step it up if he wants a Year 2.

I agree that canning Leonard and promoting Holcomb or Woods at this point would do little good. Might as well give see if he can pull it together down the stretch and earn that second season.

[Jeevo]

Kubiak took over the worst team in the league and has them playing hard at 4-5 and in the large majority of games. If Mayer doesnt fumble at the goal line we’re down by 4 late in the 3rd quarter to à team that many think is the best in their conference. Defense is terrible, offense is top 10, and the passing game is 3rd with Kirk freaking Cousins at the helm. Better days ahead.

[Reno Hightower]

Kubiak took over the worst team in the league and has them playing hard at 4-5 and in the large majority of games. If Mayer doesnt fumble at the goal line we’re down by 4 late in the 3rd quarter to à team that many think is the best in their conference. Defense is terrible, offense is top 10, and the passing game is 3rd with Kirk freaking Cousins at the helm. Better days ahead.

Very good perspective. Thank you.

[Hellbound]

One concern I had from the start about Rob Leonard was when I heard we were going to make Quay Walker a guy who was going to handle multiple roles on defense. Walker has good athletic traits, and poor instincts. The way to get something out of him is to simplify his role.

I didn't think it could get worse watching a middle lb trying to cover Megatron. Then I witnessed a dt trying to cover CMC

[Reno Hightower]

One concern I had from the start about Rob Leonard was when I heard we were going to make Quay Walker a guy who was going to handle multiple roles on defense. Walker has good athletic traits, and poor instincts. The way to get something out of him is to simplify his role.

Yes, he has been overwhelmed and out of position.

[Jeevo]

I didn't think it could get worse watching a middle lb trying to cover Megatron. Then I witnessed a dt trying to cover CMC

I'm not sure that "trying" adequately describes whatever that was.

[mstrbass2000]

answer: team needs dline,oline,wrs

[mstrbass2000]

Yes, he has been overwhelmed and out of position.

we need to fire rob leonard ...like yesterday ...dude stinks

[mstrbass2000]

Very good perspective. Thank you.

agree, offense,scheming,game planning and ability to score is top notch despite having zero running game, shit guards and shit wrs

[DanKD]

All we need is a DT who runs a 4.4 and Robbies scheme will be unstoppable

[mstrbass2000]

There was nothing wrong IMHO with promoting Leonard to the DC job initially. He's proven a top positional coach, so why not give him a shot?

But this is a production business, and he seriously needs to step it up if he wants a Year 2.

I agree that canning Leonard and promoting Holcomb or Woods at this point would do little good. Might as well give see if he can pull it together down the stretch and earn that second season.

screw that "fire his ass today" giving up 30 points per game last 6 games and tying a record says so !!!

[mstrbass2000]

All we need is a DT who runs a 4.4 and Robbies scheme will be unstoppable

we should have traded for buckner san fran gave up a 4th our 4th would have been higher...oh those precious draft picks

[DanKD]

we should have traded for buckner san fran gave up a 4th our 4th would have been higher...oh those precious draft picks

Too slow. The key to our defense is a DT who can drop back and cover WR and RB

[Attyla]

The mirage of a season continues. We can beat up bad teams but good teams will continue to be good versus us. We made too many mistakes and our defense got shredded. How we let Kittles run open like we did was embarrassing. Cousins pick to start the second half was just a bone headed play. I don't fault Mayer for his fumble, well all fumbles are on the player, but he was doing everything in his power to get over the goal line and it just got ripped from him. But dammit, 5 turnovers in one half? Holy shit. Our run game is still not clicking despite what our resident Jeanty apologist says. I cannot point to one thing that we did right. Well we did get after the QB a bit but even that was not great. Play calling was not good. Execution was not good. Trading Cousins after that? No, nobody wants a guy who did what he just did, but me saying that might mean we actually pull off a trade.

[LayneStaley]