Raiders vs SF...the post mortem

[Rabidraider]

Trade Kirk, Start Mendoza

Trade Maxx

Fire the DC

[raiderboyron]

Is this photoshopped?




And what was with Hemingway covering CMC.

I'm curious about the center offsides calls we were hit with and then see more on other teams not called like this shot.

[ELCAraiderfan]

One thing I did see on the few plays I saw earlier, why is #5 still playing on raiders defense??? Last few games I've seen him he has sucked so much. Why is he still playing?

[Jeevo]

We’re better at this point than I thought we’d be. Kubiak is going to give us a real shot at some point .

[Marzan]

We can’t run the football and opponents run it at will against us. How we can win games with that combination is baffling. We desperately need linemen on both sides of the ball

[RaiderandBulldog]

None of us were surprised by the outcome and other that the homecoming. It was a mismatch. Right now the Raiders can be bad teams and will generally lose to good teams and be outmatched by Super Bowl contenders. That is better than last year.

1 The Niners were in complete control all game long, our offices did something’s but the defense is helpless. We are 4-0 against bad to average teams and 0-4 vs SB contenders. Which is a measuring stick.

2 Klint makes more head scratching choices. It’s starting to look like that si what he is going to do as a coach.

3 As part of that. Why not put Fernando in and get reps when the game is out of hand? Why not rest Jeanty since he seems to be playing hurt. I get we won’t know everything but still.

4 Running game sucks and until it gets better. Klint’s offense will be limited.

5 Defense sucks but what else is new?

6 Laube is our best non Bowers weapon.

[SuperRaider]

Trade Kirk, Start Mendoza

Trade Maxx

Fire the DC

The defense is bad but it more to do with that the raiders don’t really have top tier DT and the backfield is actually very young; think the defense will be better next years if they add the pieces….

As for trading Maxx….not sure the raiders can get much for him; maybe a 2nd round pick….

Mendoza I think should now be the starter

[SuperRaider]

Trade Kirk, Start Mendoza

Trade Maxx

Fire the DC

The defense is bad but it more to do with that the raiders don’t really have top tier DT and the backfield is actually very young; think the defense will be better next years if they add the pieces….

As for trading Maxx….not sure the raiders can get much for him; maybe a 2nd round pick….

Mendoza I think should now be the starter

[powski]

As bad as I expected I still see the team fighting until its over. Its also one loss vs an nfc team. 4-5 is still mathematically well alive.

The Bad news is the defense does appear to be legendarily bad, and just set or tied a record for most 30+ points allowed in a row. They make plays sometimes, and even have good half-games. But against every good offense they look like complete ass. 10 yards a play, whatever play, offense not particularly straining either. Long stretches, sometimes entire halves or longer of it. To me this is more disgusting to watch than our worst/Jamarcus level offensive years. The difference is this team is going the right direction at least, I think. Not impressed with Spytek yet and would have rather kept the previous GM.

I was hopeful for Robbie but I wouldn't mind if they canned him. Maybe we can upgrade that way. I remember when we switched DCs mid-season to Pagano and immediately got better. But thats one example a long time ago and this Ds weaknesses are too weak right now.

[Attyla]

I say fire Leonard. He's not a good fit for us. He's a 3-4 coach being asked to run a 4-3.

Who's fault is that?

[DeathStar24]

You can't continue to come in every week down multiple scores to start off the game. Would love to be a fly on the wall and know what the defense is doing, or not doing, to prepare for the following game. I'll give Leonard until the bye but if this shit keeps for the next 3 games, dude gotta go.

[BoKnows81]

Welcome back to me. Shot out to Reno and Phish, always looking out for a brother.

Anyway, I didnt expect any less of that game yesterday. In my opinion they are the best team and best coached team in the league. However, would most agree that the only thing Kubiak has done this season was unlock Cousins? I was Kubiak's biggest fan and actually still am, but man he has some serious red flags at the moment. From the playcalling, to the mindboggling refusal to play Mendoza when the game is out of hand, to taking a serious risk of hiring a first time D coordinator under a first time head coach. I still support the guy but he's got to get it together.

[pfish57]

Welcome back to me. Shot out to Reno and Phish, always looking out for a brother.

Anyway, I didnt expect any less of that game yesterday. In my opinion they are the best team and best coached team in the league. However, would most agree that the only thing Kubiak has done this season was unlock Cousins? I was Kubiak's biggest fan and actually still am, but man he has some serious red flags at the moment. From the playcalling, to the mindboggling refusal to play Mendoza when the game is out of hand, to taking a serious risk of hiring a first time D coordinator under a first time head coach. I still support the guy but he's got to get it together.

Good to see you back Bro!

[heavyD]

We’re better at this point than I thought we’d be. Kubiak is going to give us a real shot at some point .

Yeah I think it's important to remember that 4-5 is actually a pretty good record when you consider the run of difficult opponents they have faced to date. It's a young team that wasn't expected to make the playoffs so I don't think we should lose sight of that even though the losses are disappointing. That said the defense just tied the record for games in a row giving up 30+ points in six straight games and is a real problem. It's not just the players but the confusion and blown coverages. That McCaffrey TD reception out of the backfield where there was nobody in the area was really, really, really bad. Maybe they want to give Leonard rope to finish the season but you question if it's good for these young players to be learning in a defense that's not well coordinated. I do think that what Kubiak is doing on offense will be attractive to top DC's available in the offseason so it's something that can get corrected next season but it's a matter of how long they want to continue like this with the defense letting teams score so easily. Playing from behind early in games isn't exactly making it easy for the offense to get the running game going which is another big issue. A team that is giving up 30+ points every game isn't likely going to be able to operate a ball control offense.

[chucker]

I think it's unlikely that a DC change happens in-season, but we're heading for an offseason change - barring a shocking turnaround.

[chucker]

One concern I had from the start about Rob Leonard was when I heard we were going to make Quay Walker a guy who was going to handle multiple roles on defense. Walker has good athletic traits, and poor instincts. The way to get something out of him is to simplify his role.