Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
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RaiderandBulldog
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[quote=RaiderWu post_id=1110658]Does Carr get a “come from behind win” on todays game?[/quote]Here are the latest accordingly to Josh
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/ ... gr%5Etweet
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/ ... gr%5Etweet
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[quote=RaiderandBulldog post_id=1110673]Here are the latest accordingly to Josh
https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/status/ ... gr%5Etweet[/quote]Just confirming it as a worthless stat. He also got a GWD for handing it off to Jacobs and not tripping him on the way to an 86 yard TD.
https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/status/ ... gr%5Etweet[/quote]Just confirming it as a worthless stat. He also got a GWD for handing it off to Jacobs and not tripping him on the way to an 86 yard TD.
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[quote=RaiderandBulldog post_id=1110673]Here are the latest accordingly to Josh
https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/status/ ... gr%5Etweet[/quote]That's 2 this year that he credit for that he had nothing to do with...handing the ball off to Jacobs and the defense with a walkoff
https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/status/ ... gr%5Etweet[/quote]That's 2 this year that he credit for that he had nothing to do with...handing the ball off to Jacobs and the defense with a walkoff
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[quote=Hellbound post_id=1110708]That's 2 this year that he credit for that he had nothing to do with...handing the ball off to Jacobs and the defense with a walkoff[/quote]I mean when did this "stat" become official?
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[quote=Dark Horse post_id=1110731]I mean when did this "stat" become official?[/quote]It isn't an official NFL stat. Just a stat that some stats websites compile.
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[quote=RaiderandBulldog post_id=1110673]Here are the latest accordingly to Josh
https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/status/ ... gr%5Etweet[/quote]Derek Carr had a bad game but did score a offensive TD in the last 32 seconds. There are no stats for defensive comeback wins but Jones more than deserves the game ball.
https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/status/ ... gr%5Etweet[/quote]Derek Carr had a bad game but did score a offensive TD in the last 32 seconds. There are no stats for defensive comeback wins but Jones more than deserves the game ball.
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[quote=deathstar post_id=1110741]Derek Carr had a bad game but did score a offensive TD in the last 32 seconds. There are no stats for defensive comeback wins but Jones more than deserves the game ball.[/quote]There are no stats for specifically offensive comebacks either, just comeback wins based on point deficit.
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Let me ask you guys this....
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?
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[quote=Sold My Soul post_id=1110784]Let me ask you guys this....
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?[/quote]Nope. I don’t want his “football isn’t my highest priority” attitude to spread in the locker room or to a young QB. I want a QB who vomits blood after losses and only has eyes on the Lombardi.
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?[/quote]Nope. I don’t want his “football isn’t my highest priority” attitude to spread in the locker room or to a young QB. I want a QB who vomits blood after losses and only has eyes on the Lombardi.
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[quote=Sold My Soul post_id=1110784]Let me ask you guys this....
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?[/quote]You've seen his winning attitude as a starter. What do you think his attitude would be as a backup? What kind of "teaching" do you think he would actually be doing?
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?[/quote]You've seen his winning attitude as a starter. What do you think his attitude would be as a backup? What kind of "teaching" do you think he would actually be doing?
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This Pats game I think was the end of the rope for me with Carr. Honestly i can’t even say he’s ”at least average” anymore.
Beyond the god awful pocket awareness where he’ll throw it into the stands with no pressure one play… and then not move for 5 seconds and take a sack the next….
Beyond the obliviousness to the game situation where he’ll throw bombs on 3rd and short… or take 3 shots in a row on a game tying drive and put us in 4th and 10.
Beyond the accuracy that has suddenly fallen off a cliff… or the bipolar usage of Adams where he won’t throw to anyone else for a while and then refuses to look his way for a while…
There’s just no heart to be found with him anymore. There’s no effort to even try to make a play. There’s just a guy totally content to throw it out of bounds every time he has to scramble.
At least for me - I’m at the point where I don’t think there’s much to lose. The “technical ability” that’s kind of been how you rationalize sticking with him isn’t there anymore and whatever amount of it that is there… I think could be more than compensated for with a guy that plays with some heart.
Beyond the god awful pocket awareness where he’ll throw it into the stands with no pressure one play… and then not move for 5 seconds and take a sack the next….
Beyond the obliviousness to the game situation where he’ll throw bombs on 3rd and short… or take 3 shots in a row on a game tying drive and put us in 4th and 10.
Beyond the accuracy that has suddenly fallen off a cliff… or the bipolar usage of Adams where he won’t throw to anyone else for a while and then refuses to look his way for a while…
There’s just no heart to be found with him anymore. There’s no effort to even try to make a play. There’s just a guy totally content to throw it out of bounds every time he has to scramble.
At least for me - I’m at the point where I don’t think there’s much to lose. The “technical ability” that’s kind of been how you rationalize sticking with him isn’t there anymore and whatever amount of it that is there… I think could be more than compensated for with a guy that plays with some heart.
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Dark Horse
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[quote=Sold My Soul post_id=1110784]Let me ask you guys this....
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?[/quote]F☆ck no
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?[/quote]F☆ck no
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[quote=Sold My Soul post_id=1110784]Let me ask you guys this....
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?[/quote]I don't think he'd be a good backup. I also don't think he'd be comfortable as the backup - he'd just retire if we didn't trade him.
Would you be comfortable having DC as the backup if we drafted our future QB this draft.?[/quote]I don't think he'd be a good backup. I also don't think he'd be comfortable as the backup - he'd just retire if we didn't trade him.
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[quote=Atlasffa post_id=1110790]You've seen his winning attitude as a starter. What do you think his attitude would be as a backup? What kind of "teaching" do you think he would actually be doing?[/quote]Don't shoot me...I'm just the piano player. 
I've seen 2 camps when it comes to DC....
Love him or hate him.
Those that hate... see no redeeming value.
Let me ask this another way to try and understand your thinking.....
Of all non starting QB's....
Where would you rank DC when it comes to backups? I've never seen this question probed. If DC is dispatched and DC wants to continue his NFL career...how does he stack up as a backup....
Or.....of the other 31 teams .....which team would DC be better at starting for?
I'm just looking for opinions.....
Legit question....because if the Raiders move on from DC and cut him......
I've seen 2 camps when it comes to DC....
Love him or hate him.
Those that hate... see no redeeming value.
Let me ask this another way to try and understand your thinking.....
Of all non starting QB's....
Where would you rank DC when it comes to backups? I've never seen this question probed. If DC is dispatched and DC wants to continue his NFL career...how does he stack up as a backup....
Or.....of the other 31 teams .....which team would DC be better at starting for?
I'm just looking for opinions.....
Legit question....because if the Raiders move on from DC and cut him......
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Dark Horse
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[quote=raiders93 post_id=1110792]This Pats game I think was the end of the rope for me with Carr. Honestly i can’t even say he’s ”at least average” anymore.
Beyond the god awful pocket awareness where he’ll throw it into the stands with no pressure one play… and then not move for 5 seconds and take a sack the next….
Beyond the obliviousness to the game situation where he’ll throw bombs on 3rd and short… or take 3 shots in a row on a game tying drive and put us in 4th and 10.
Beyond the accuracy that has suddenly fallen off a cliff… or the bipolar usage of Adams where he won’t throw to anyone else for a while and then refuses to look his way for a while…
There’s just no heart to be found with him anymore. There’s no effort to even try to make a play. There’s just a guy totally content to throw it out of bounds every time he has to scramble.
At least for me - I’m at the point where I don’t think there’s much to lose. The “technical ability” that’s kind of been how you rationalize sticking with him isn’t there anymore and whatever amount of it that is there… I think could be more than compensated for with a guy that plays with some heart.[/quote]It's actually a myth that he has ever been an accurate passer. The years he had higher completion percentages was a result of him not throwing into tight windows. Even then, his ball placement is largely ass.
Beyond the god awful pocket awareness where he’ll throw it into the stands with no pressure one play… and then not move for 5 seconds and take a sack the next….
Beyond the obliviousness to the game situation where he’ll throw bombs on 3rd and short… or take 3 shots in a row on a game tying drive and put us in 4th and 10.
Beyond the accuracy that has suddenly fallen off a cliff… or the bipolar usage of Adams where he won’t throw to anyone else for a while and then refuses to look his way for a while…
There’s just no heart to be found with him anymore. There’s no effort to even try to make a play. There’s just a guy totally content to throw it out of bounds every time he has to scramble.
At least for me - I’m at the point where I don’t think there’s much to lose. The “technical ability” that’s kind of been how you rationalize sticking with him isn’t there anymore and whatever amount of it that is there… I think could be more than compensated for with a guy that plays with some heart.[/quote]It's actually a myth that he has ever been an accurate passer. The years he had higher completion percentages was a result of him not throwing into tight windows. Even then, his ball placement is largely ass.