Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

Las Vegas Raiders Discussion.
Born from RF.net ruins, resurrected as RF.com, now arriving at Raiderstation.
The #1 Las Vegas Raiders site on the web!
User avatar
RaiderandBulldog
Posts: 16,314
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:18 pm
Location: Fresno Ca
Has given High Fives: 209 times
Received High Fives: 435 times

Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

Unread post by RaiderandBulldog »

User avatar
RaiderWu
Posts: 301
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:49 pm

Unread post by RaiderWu »

[quote=Oaktown Superman post_id=1015499]Someone posted this on another forum, and I’m seeing some of the same issues seven years(eighth season) later…



B/R Bleacher report
Derek Carr NFL Draft 2014: Highlights, Scouting Report for Oakland Raiders QB
Fresno State (HT: 6’2⅜", WT: 214 lbs)

Oakland Raiders

Second Round: 36th Pick

NFL Comparison: Jay Cutler, QB, Chicago Bears

Negatives

•Footwork needs improvement; he often retreats from pressure and throws off his back foot. Needs to step into his throws more consistently.

•Poor decision-making under duress.

•Average pocket presence with wavering poise and unrefined pocket movement.

•Stares down his intended target. He needs to improve eye discipline.

•Too often appears to be flustered by pressure. Can be quick to flee the pocket.

•Inconsistent mechanics, has a tendency to lock his lower half and throw with his arm alone.

•Struggles when his receivers’ routes are disrupted.

•Often late to recognize the blitz.

•Operated almost exclusively out of shotgun with four or five receiver sets.

•Not an anticipatory thrower.

•Will not hurt defenses on the ground. He has enough mobility to get by but is not much of a running threat.

•Hangs his receivers out to dry at times.

•Does not appear to see the field very well, throwing into double-teams occasionally.

•Struggled with top competition.

•College career ended on a lousy note as he was erratic vs. USC in the Las Vegas Bowl.[/quote]This scouting report is SO on point it almost feels like a troll job. I actually looked it up and indeed it is legit. There are some good positives but as usual the negatives far outweigh the positives with Carr. I’ll be damned 8 years later.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/ ... e.amp.html
User avatar
Raidernation1979
The AssassinFernando
Posts: 8,305
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:39 am
Has given High Fives: 298 times
Received High Fives: 825 times

Unread post by Raidernation1979 »

[quote=Willmark post_id=1015632]Sure but even now there is some part of me that wishes he could get back to 2016. There were games that season where he was doing everything right, had command of the offense etc. It was a mistake for us to can Musgrave.

Hell the Buffalo game that year and the Colts game up to the injury were awesome to watch, so much fun. Since then all we have had is crap for the most part.[/quote]Even in 2016 where it mattered he faltered. In KC for division and #1 seed he went 17-41. The defense gave him the ball inside the opponents 40 multiple times and he did nothing.
User avatar
KillerRaider30
Posts: 7,588
Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:24 pm
Has given High Fives: 626 times
Received High Fives: 562 times

Unread post by KillerRaider30 »

What's so "Essential" about Carr that he should stay?
User avatar
raiders1988xyz

Unread post by raiders1988xyz »

Image

yeah, carr isn't aggressive on 3rd down
User avatar
raiders1988xyz

Unread post by raiders1988xyz »

Image

Image
User avatar
352Raider
Posts: 15,491
Joined: Sun May 11, 2014 2:47 pm
Has given High Fives: 385 times
Received High Fives: 331 times

Unread post by 352Raider »

[quote=KillerRaider30 post_id=1015659]What's so "Essential" about Carr that he should stay?[/quote]We’ll have to wait for the OP to opine.
User avatar
tactician
Posts: 2,574
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:42 pm

Unread post by tactician »

Time to park the Carr. No shame in being a mid tier NFL quarterback, but there no reason to commit a decade to a guy like that. Either you have a franchise QB or you're looking for one.
User avatar
Attyla
Gold JacketSnake3 Mile Lyle
Posts: 52,595
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:31 pm
Has given High Fives: 1246 times
Received High Fives: 2983 times

Unread post by Attyla »

It really is amazing, it is a tale of two Carr's

When the guy is hot, he can do no wrong, but when he cools off he can do no right. I have never seen a more blatant display of a lightswitch QB...ever. I know there will be those who point out he lost Ruggs and Gruden but come on, Ruggs, while leading the team in yards was also mid tier in receptions. Sure he spread the field a bit but Carr is missing targets right and left. Gruden? He is completely overrated. Is Greg calling good games? Not really, but he is not terrible and on the bad calls, Carr is not audibling at the line with his presnap reads. And that sideline pout is getting old, fast. Tommorrow we go to Dallas, which will be hostile and they are going to throw everything they got at Carr to rattle his shit from the first snap. He better throw that lightswitch early if we got a shot.

You hear me David and Darren? Get that brother of your's head back in the f[raiders_icon]cking game. I know you read these boards!! Sorry if my cursing hurts your virgin eyes but I don't give a f[raiders_icon]ck. Kick that brother of yours in the ass and get his mind right!
User avatar
Willmark
Posts: 14,790
Joined: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:27 pm
Location: Keeper of THE COIN!
Has given High Fives: 1092 times
Received High Fives: 1009 times

Unread post by Willmark »

[quote=Raidernation1979 post_id=1015655]Even in 2016 where it mattered he faltered. In KC for division and #1 seed he went 17-41. The defense gave him the ball inside the opponents 40 multiple times and he did nothing.[/quote]No doubt but for the first time in years/decades we had hope, only for it to be a cruel mirage.
User avatar
raiders1988xyz

Unread post by raiders1988xyz »

mark davis blew his load for extending carr a year too early

should have wait until after 2017 season

now this is a golden chance to get rid of carr for good after this season, do not extend him for another 5 more years
User avatar
Aqua
Posts: 373
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:49 pm

Unread post by Aqua »

[quote=Attyla post_id=1015668]
You hear me David and Darren? Get that brother of your's head back in the f[raiders_icon]cking game. I know you read these boards!! Sorry if my cursing hurts your virgin eyes but I don't give a f[raiders_icon]ck. Kick that brother of yours in the ass and get his mind right![/quote]On social media David Carr blocks any negativity about his brother Dereck. If David is a member of this forum he probably has used the ignore function on you and dozens of others here.
User avatar
raiders1988xyz

Unread post by raiders1988xyz »

[quote=Aqua post_id=1015672]On social media David Carr blocks any negativity about his brother Dereck. If David is a member of this forum he probably has used the ignore function on you and dozens of others here.[/quote]blocking is for loser like the carr family, can't handle criticism

does david carr really think his brother is better than brady, manning, mahomes?
User avatar
Attyla
Gold JacketSnake3 Mile Lyle
Posts: 52,595
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:31 pm
Has given High Fives: 1246 times
Received High Fives: 2983 times

Unread post by Attyla »

[quote=Aqua post_id=1015672]On social media David Carr blocks any negativity about his brother Dereck. If David is a member of this forum he probably has used the ignore function on you and dozens of others here.[/quote]they do not have to be members to read the forum. I have been able to verify within a high level of certainty based on some of their tweets/comments that they visit here to get the pulse of what the fanbase thinks about Derek. They attack "negative fan comments" on a pretty regular basis.
User avatar
tactician
Posts: 2,574
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:42 pm

Unread post by tactician »

[quote=Attyla post_id=1015674]they do not have to be members to read the forum. I have been able to verify within a high level of certainty based on some of their tweets/comments that they visit here to get the pulse of what the fanbase thinks about Derek. They attack "negative fan comments" on a pretty regular basis.[/quote]Some Raider sites are more pro or anti-Carr. This one is more down on Carr generally, compared to Reddit. But at what point do Carr supporters suggest it might be time for a change? Flacco won a Super Bowl and the Ravens still moved on.
User avatar
raiders1988xyz

Unread post by raiders1988xyz »

[quote=tactician post_id=1015677]Some Raider sites are more pro or anti-Carr. This one is more down on Carr generally, compared to Reddit. But at what point do Carr supporters suggest it might be time for a change? Flacco won a Super Bowl and the Ravens still moved on.[/quote]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... v/2018.htm

and they completely change the offense to mold fit for lamar jackson in middle of the season

flacco record, 4-5
jackson record, 6-1

what are the raiders waiting for? put in mariota and see what happen
Post Reply