NFL Trade Deadline

[LayneStaley]

Ok maybe this doesn’t need its own thread but the deadline is 5 weeks away. I know the next couple weeks will determine if we are buyers but let’s say we get to 5-2 do we make a move?

I really wish we still had Jakobi here but it sounds like a few guys might be available…

Brian Thomas Jr
Marvin Harrison Jr
Jerry Jeudy

Thoughts?

[chucker]

Al Gamini say raiders playoff chance is 13-16%. Its a mistake to forgo a trade to chase such long odds or for 1/2 season of hand holding for Mendoza.. Take the pick if its at least a second.

I agree. Our playoff chances will go one way or the other later today, so our feelings on any decisions might move with that. Likewise the Vikings might look at what happens Monday night as a guide for what direction they want.

[DanKD]

If we somehow beat the 49ers i dont think we trade anyone.

[CWood24]

I think the best deal for us if trading Cousins would be to ask for a 2nd & a 4th with provisions that change deoending on how they finish the season

2nd & 4th if they miss the playoff

2nd & 3rd if they make the playoff

1st & 4th if they make the championship game

1st & 3rd if they win a SB

[chucker]

If we somehow beat the 49ers i dont think we trade anyone.

I agree. Honestly I still might want to trade Cousins, but they don't listen to me. In fact they keep telling me to stop sending them messages.

[chucker]

[Reno Hightower]

Schefty is usually on point.

[Cruisin with Tooz]

They are interested in Jones, but not KC? Im not buying it.

[chucker]

Lots of names and salary info here. I think the trade compensation guesses are pretty whacked, but that's not really the forte of spotrac:
https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/3585/ ... candidates

[BoKnows81]

Trading Maxx to the highest bidder should be the absolute first move we make.

[Oaktown Superman]

The reasons to rebuff trade offers for Cousins:

1. If you believe the team culture would be negatively impacted by trading away one of the league passing leaders when the team still has a reasonable shot at the playoffs. This also depends upon the rest of the team believing that Mendoza isn't ready to win now - and we don't know what their views are on that.
2. If you value giving Mendoza more time to learn from the sidelines before thrusting him into the starting lineup.
3. If you value Cousins supporting Mendoza once Mendoza is ultimately inserted as starter, sometime after the bye week.

The cost of all that is $10 million in cash and cap plus whatever draft pick that Cousins would get in trade (there are wildly different estimates of what that pick might be). If someone is offering a 1st rounder...... cmon just do it. If the best you're looking at is a 5th - well Mendoza's development is probably worth more than that. If the Vikings already have a deal in principle with the Colts for Jones, then this all might be moot, because I don't think he has much value to anyone else.

I think yesterday’s game torpedoed his draft stock. Other teams can see his arm is shot if we can. He can’t get the ball deep to Jefferson if they need him to. I’d think a 4th is his trade ceiling.

[chucker]

I think yesterday’s game torpedoed his draft stock. Other teams can see his arm is shot if we can. He can’t get the ball deep to Jefferson if they need him to. I’d think a 4th is his trade ceiling.

I think the chance of a 1 or 2 was always a pipe dream. I also think that yesterday's game didn't change the views of NFL teams as much as it did for fans. Kevin O'Connell knows what he's looking at, and knew all along what Cousins was and is. I think he also knows how to have Cousins function in his offense on a team that has a chance to do something. The game tonight may be enlightening for us as well.

Personally I'd happily trade Cousins for ...... well, not much. But I want to see Mendoza, because we're not going anywhere this season so I want him to get playing time.

[Oaktown Superman]

I think the chance of a 1 or 2 was always a pipe dream. I also think that yesterday's game didn't change the views of NFL teams as much as it did for fans. Kevin O'Connell knows what he's looking at, and knew all along what Cousins was and is. I think he also knows how to have Cousins function in his offense on a team that has a chance to do something. The game tonight may be enlightening for us as well.

Personally I'd happily trade Cousins for ...... well, not much. But I want to see Mendoza, because we're not going anywhere this season so I want him to get playing time.

Oh, I never bought the notion any team would give up a top 64 pick for him. But I think even a third is no longer an option as well. But I could be wrong. All it takes is for one desperate team to bite.

[Rabidraider]

I was thinking Kirk was going to get us a 4th. Anything above it is just gravy.

[WNYRAIDER]

....I know some saw a single deep pass to tucker some weeks ago, and without pressure, and with being to step into it , as somehow having been evidence of the contrary, but the reality is that Kirk has been reluctant to throw deep to an often open Tucker for most of the season. ...he knows what he sees from himself daily in practice, knows the added risk in making those throws at this point, and has instead gone elsewhere where he still feels confident he can make those throws. ....I believe the push to take more deep shots more recently has come from frustration over the stacked boxes and stifled running game, and to try and get defenses to not disregard the need to defend beyond 20 yards or so.
...teams are now aware of this and those deep routes are being paid attention to, which has allowed some more running lanes at times, but here we are....

[Hellbound]

Kirk was or is not going to fetch anything more than a mid round pick at best. Us on a message board constantly talk about his lack or mobility and arm. You think other teams don't see that? He looks every bit of a 38 yr old out there. Add in that he's basically a rental and that also diminishes his value. Some are going to get snapped back into reality after the deadline