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If we're really gonna run a 3-4 then these depth charts should show it. Our line should consist of Hemingway, Laula, and Fatukasi with Crosby and Paye as our OLBs. Crosby played linebacker in high school. The position is not entirely strange to him. :thinking:
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We are 2nd in points scored and 30th in points allowed. Talk about a Jekyll and Hyde routine.
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5 games in a row the Raiders have given up 30 or more points.
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It's been consecutive weeks now where the opposition goes down drive after drive after drive and gets points. I know it's the not the greatest group of individual talent but Leonard needs to get his shit together.
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We keep taking about drafting offense when the defense is terrible.

I'd rather have a top Nose tackle than a top WR1 at this point.
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Rabidraider wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2026 6:57 am We keep taking about drafting offense when the defense is terrible.

I'd rather have a top Nose tackle than a top WR1 at this point.
We truly need both so the question will simply be what can be had via trade, FA or the value when picking in the draft.
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Xramfan wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2026 7:01 am We truly need both so the question will simply be what can be had via trade, FA or the value when picking in the draft.
Agree, but overall the mindset needs to be fix the defense. With even a middle of the pack defense the team would be 6-2
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Rabidraider wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2026 6:57 am We keep taking about drafting offense when the defense is terrible.

I'd rather have a top Nose tackle than a top WR1 at this point.
They are well beyond the Jeremiah Smith range at this point. Honestly, I'd go BPA for defense. Even if it's someone in the secondary.
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We keep relying on mid round pick & other peoples mid level free agents to bolster D we cant expect to be good.

The Ferrell’s & Wilson’s not working out have hurt us on that side of the ball

We do have some hope with the like of Hemingway, Keenan, Stukes, Porter & Masses have all flashed good talent it is just a shame we didn't get to see Crawford

Our D started awful & finished strong but with so many young players in key position it was always gonna be a night & day season for them

The one partnership i’m really intrigued to see going forward is the IDL tandem of Hemingway & Keenan, once Hemingway get’s back to full fitness i really think they could be the anchor up front we need
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DeathStar24 wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2026 7:11 am They are well beyond the Jeremiah Smith range at this point. Honestly, I'd go BPA for defense. Even if it's someone in the secondary.
The only other WR1 that could be in our range is Coleman.

I hope there is a D lineman there personally.
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Rabidraider wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2026 7:20 am The only other WR1 that could be in our range is Coleman.

I hope there is a D lineman there personally.
I dont know if we really need a top WR more than we need more pass rush it a big debate

Bowers being the weapon he is give us the option to leave WR maybe into the 2nd

Also hoping Keenan keeps trending upwards to allow us to look more at the edge, if him & Hemingway can get a little tandem going i think the D will look better
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Rabidraider wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2026 7:20 am The only other WR1 that could be in our range is Coleman.

I hope there is a D lineman there personally.
I'm good with Coleman too. I know Dline is the greater need, but I won't turn down a Leonard Moore (don't think he'll be in their range as well) or even an Ashton Hampton out of Clemson should he fall to them.

I agree, hopefully there is a highly touted Dlineman or two that they can draft.
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Xramfan wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2026 5:57 pm 5 games in a row the Raiders have given up 30 or more points.
fvckn terrible dline, opposing offenses just ram it down our throats laughing to the endzone...
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Rabidraider wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2026 6:57 am We keep taking about drafting offense when the defense is terrible.

I'd rather have a top Nose tackle than a top WR1 at this point.
agree 100 pct, kubiak has us avg almost 30 per game now with crap at wr, the upside is what with a wr1 ??? vs getting a top dt/nt whom can move us to 15 and higher on defense
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DeathStar24 wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2026 6:26 am It's been consecutive weeks now where the opposition goes down drive after drive after drive and gets points. I know it's the not the greatest group of individual talent but Leonard needs to get his shit together.
dline is a mess especially at dt/nt positions, thats not something coaching can fix we just dont have the talent
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Leonard is on thin ice. One more blowout and he's gone!!!
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