The Tankathon thread,i.e., the 2026 Draft
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The team better keep Pickett away from the field, i could see him winning a game. Please PC keep Geno as the starter..
If we win 1 game we move from 2 to pick 7, and if other 3 win teams all lose we stay at 7, only cardinals have a stronger SOS and would pick 8 if we all have 3 wins... we got to lose out or we are Fvkced again likely at pick 7
If we win 1 game we move from 2 to pick 7, and if other 3 win teams all lose we stay at 7, only cardinals have a stronger SOS and would pick 8 if we all have 3 wins... we got to lose out or we are Fvkced again likely at pick 7
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Not really, Kiper has put Moore as his #1 guy. Moore was a highly regarded recruit & he was stuck behind an NFL drafted quarterback last year.June510 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 4:15 pm There's a big gap between the 2 and the amount of starts matter a lot. Mendoza started all 3 years at Cal and 1 year at Indiana.
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This. we better not win another game. we need to DRAFT A DAMN QB.RaiderFan1 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:06 pm The team better keep Pickett away from the field, i could see him winning a game. Please PC keep Geno as the starter..
If we win 1 game we move from 2 to pick 7, and if other 3 win teams all lose we stay at 7, only cardinals have a stronger SOS and would pick 8 if we all have 3 wins... we got to lose out or we are Fvkced again likely at pick 7
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Moore may have the highest upside but I think he stays in school. Itd be ideal for us if all of Mendoza, Moore and Simpson declare for more options. I like Mendoza the best
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I’d take any of the three…Being a top five pick would be hard for a kid to pass up and stay in school
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Well if he’s Kipers guy we know he won’t be good. So Mendoza it is.Sloth_Fratelli wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:18 pm Not really, Kiper has put Moore as his #1 guy. Moore was a highly regarded recruit & he was stuck behind an NFL drafted quarterback last year.
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Google AI thinks we are gonna get it.
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The SOS tiebreaker with NYG is a moot point unless that game ends in a tie and we both finish 2-14-1, otherwise our records wont be tied, so there would be no tiebreaker. If we both finish with 3 wins, the tiebreaker is for all intents and purposes moot because with 3 wins we'd be lucky to have as high as the 5th pick.
The only SOS tiebreaker that has any relevance for us is with Ten, as it is likely we both finish with 2 wins each. If some how both Ten and us finish with 3 wins, again the tiebreaker is kind of moot, as neither of us would be looking at a top 5 pick.
Our tiebreaker lead with Ten is very secure. Ten's opponents current combined win total is 126 wins. Ours is 119.5. So we currently have a 6.5 win lead.
There are only 65 games left on the NFL schedule. A 6.5 win lead doesnt sound like much, but 20 of those 65 games will have no effect because they are between teams that neither we nor Ten has played or they involve Cle or NE as one of the teams.
Another 12 of the 65 games will automatically increase our lead by 1 game no matter who wins (eg any intradivision game involving the NFC west or AFC south or any interdivision involving an AFC south team and an NFC west team).
There are another 14 of 65 games that will decrease our lead by 1 game no matter who wins (any intradivision game involving AFC west teams or NFC east teams or any game between an AFC west team and an NFC east team). The net result of those 26 fixed outcome games is that it will shrink our lead over Ten from 6.5 wins to 4.5 wins.
For Ten to get the tiebreaker, they would have to make up that 4.5 win deficit in the remaining 19 games(=65-20-12-14). These 19 games are what will determine the SOS tiebreaker. 9 of these 19 games (Group 1 below) have 1 Ten opponent vs a Ten non-opponent (eg LAR vs Atl), so the outcomes of those games will either leave our lead unchanged(if ATL wins) or increase it by 1 win (if LAR win), potentially causing a 1 win positive swing. 7 of the 19 (Group 2 below) have one of our opponents against a non-opponent (eg Min vs NYG), so the outcomes of those games will either leave our lead unchanged (if Min wins) or decrease it by 1 win (if NYG wins), potentially causing a 1 negative win swing. The final 3 of the 19 have 1 of our unique or more heavily weighted opponents vs one of Ten's unique or more heavily weighted opponents (Chi vs SF, Den vs Jax and LAC vs Hou). The results of those 3 games either will increase or decrease our lead by 1 win, resulting in a 2 win swing.
To put this in magic number terms in these 19 games, our magic number is 6, Ten's magic number is 17.
These are the 19 games: Group 1 and Group 2 games reduce the magic number by 1. Group 3 games reduce the magic number by 2.
Group 1
Nyj vs Jax, Car vs NO, Det vs Rams, NYJ vs NO, Atl vs Ari, Cin vs Ari, Car vs Sea, Atl vs Rams, Atl vs NO
Group 2
Cle vs Chi, GB vs Den, Min Vs Dal, GB vs Chi, Min vs NYG, Buf vs Phi, Det vs Chi
Group 3
Chi vs SF, Den vs Jax, Lac vs Hou
The only SOS tiebreaker that has any relevance for us is with Ten, as it is likely we both finish with 2 wins each. If some how both Ten and us finish with 3 wins, again the tiebreaker is kind of moot, as neither of us would be looking at a top 5 pick.
Our tiebreaker lead with Ten is very secure. Ten's opponents current combined win total is 126 wins. Ours is 119.5. So we currently have a 6.5 win lead.
There are only 65 games left on the NFL schedule. A 6.5 win lead doesnt sound like much, but 20 of those 65 games will have no effect because they are between teams that neither we nor Ten has played or they involve Cle or NE as one of the teams.
Another 12 of the 65 games will automatically increase our lead by 1 game no matter who wins (eg any intradivision game involving the NFC west or AFC south or any interdivision involving an AFC south team and an NFC west team).
There are another 14 of 65 games that will decrease our lead by 1 game no matter who wins (any intradivision game involving AFC west teams or NFC east teams or any game between an AFC west team and an NFC east team). The net result of those 26 fixed outcome games is that it will shrink our lead over Ten from 6.5 wins to 4.5 wins.
For Ten to get the tiebreaker, they would have to make up that 4.5 win deficit in the remaining 19 games(=65-20-12-14). These 19 games are what will determine the SOS tiebreaker. 9 of these 19 games (Group 1 below) have 1 Ten opponent vs a Ten non-opponent (eg LAR vs Atl), so the outcomes of those games will either leave our lead unchanged(if ATL wins) or increase it by 1 win (if LAR win), potentially causing a 1 win positive swing. 7 of the 19 (Group 2 below) have one of our opponents against a non-opponent (eg Min vs NYG), so the outcomes of those games will either leave our lead unchanged (if Min wins) or decrease it by 1 win (if NYG wins), potentially causing a 1 negative win swing. The final 3 of the 19 have 1 of our unique or more heavily weighted opponents vs one of Ten's unique or more heavily weighted opponents (Chi vs SF, Den vs Jax and LAC vs Hou). The results of those 3 games either will increase or decrease our lead by 1 win, resulting in a 2 win swing.
To put this in magic number terms in these 19 games, our magic number is 6, Ten's magic number is 17.
These are the 19 games: Group 1 and Group 2 games reduce the magic number by 1. Group 3 games reduce the magic number by 2.
Group 1
Nyj vs Jax, Car vs NO, Det vs Rams, NYJ vs NO, Atl vs Ari, Cin vs Ari, Car vs Sea, Atl vs Rams, Atl vs NO
Group 2
Cle vs Chi, GB vs Den, Min Vs Dal, GB vs Chi, Min vs NYG, Buf vs Phi, Det vs Chi
Group 3
Chi vs SF, Den vs Jax, Lac vs Hou
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Cruisin with Tooz wrote: Mon Dec 08, 2025 2:20 am The SOS tiebreaker with NYG is a moot point unless that game ends in a tie and we both finish 2-14-1, otherwise our records wont be tied, so there would be no tiebreaker. If we both finish with 3 wins, the tiebreaker is for all intents and purposes moot because with 3 wins we'd be lucky to have as high as the 5th pick.
The only SOS tiebreaker that has any relevance for us is with Ten, as it is likely we both finish with 2 wins each. If some how both Ten and us finish with 3 wins, again the tiebreaker is kind of moot, as neither of us would be looking at a top 5 pick.
Our tiebreaker lead with Ten is very secure. Ten's opponents current combined win total is 126 wins. Ours is 119.5. So we currently have a 6.5 win lead.
There are only 65 games left on the NFL schedule. A 6.5 win lead doesnt sound like much, but 20 of those 65 games will have no effect because they are between teams that neither we nor Ten has played or they involve Cle or NE as one of the teams.
Another 12 of the 65 games will automatically increase our lead by 1 game no matter who wins (eg any intradivision game involving the NFC west or AFC south or any interdivision involving an AFC south team and an NFC west team).
There are another 14 of 65 games that will decrease our lead by 1 game no matter who wins (any intradivision game involving AFC west teams or NFC east teams or any game between an AFC west team and an NFC east team). The net result of those 26 fixed outcome games is that it will shrink our lead over Ten from 6.5 wins to 4.5 wins.
For Ten to get the tiebreaker, they would have to make up that 4.5 win deficit in the remaining 19 games(=65-20-12-14). These 19 games are what will determine the SOS tiebreaker. 9 of these 19 games (Group 1 below) have 1 Ten opponent vs a Ten non-opponent (eg LAR vs Atl), so the outcomes of those games will either leave our lead unchanged(if ATL wins) or increase it by 1 win (if LAR win), potentially causing a 1 win positive swing. 7 of the 19 (Group 2 below) have one of our opponents against a non-opponent (eg Min vs NYG), so the outcomes of those games will either leave our lead unchanged (if Min wins) or decrease it by 1 win (if NYG wins), potentially causing a 1 negative win swing. The final 3 of the 19 have 1 of our unique or more heavily weighted opponents vs one of Ten's unique or more heavily weighted opponents (Chi vs SF, Den vs Jax and LAC vs Hou). The results of those 3 games either will increase or decrease our lead by 1 win, resulting in a 2 win swing.
To put this in magic number terms in these 19 games, our magic number is 6, Ten's magic number is 17.
These are the 19 games: Group 1 and Group 2 games reduce the magic number by 1. Group 3 games reduce the magic number by 2.
Group 1
Nyj vs Jax Car vs NO Det vs Rams NYJ vs NO Atl vs Ari Cin vs Ari Car vs Sea Atl vs Rams Atl vs NO
Group 2
Cle vs Chi GB vs Den Min Vs Dal GB vs Chi Min vs NYG Buf vs Phi Det vs Chi
Group 3
Chi vs SF Den vs Jax Lac vs Hou
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Our Superbowl is in a few weeks. I think the score will be 9 to 6 and we win the number 1 pick! We can't let Pete stay, he has to go!
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No, nothing more than 6th grade math. Sorry if that's beyond your ability.
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Appreciate the work you put into it, but basically we lose out and we have the #1 pick - and that's first grade mathCruisin with Tooz wrote: Mon Dec 08, 2025 3:02 am No, nothing more than 6th grade math. Sorry if that's beyond your ability.
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Exactly what I told my wife. We need to fake A Kenny Pickett injury because we could win a game if not two. Unless he becomes Dan Marino the last few games and we know he is our guy without a shadow of a doubt, we need him to take a vacation.RaiderFan1 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:06 pm The team better keep Pickett away from the field, i could see him winning a game. Please PC keep Geno as the starter..
If we win 1 game we move from 2 to pick 7, and if other 3 win teams all lose we stay at 7, only cardinals have a stronger SOS and would pick 8 if we all have 3 wins... we got to lose out or we are Fvkced again likely at pick 7
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