Geno Smith Thread

[BoKnows81]

[pfish57]

Hell our putrid QB's had 19 Td's & 16 Int's last year..Geno beat that by one in each category...hardly Awe inspiring lol

[Trainnvain]

[quote=BoKnows81 post_id=1281157]Sure, you are correct that both can be true. So why say someone is flat out wrong? : beer: Especially when the most important need in everyone's eyes was QB. That was blatantly obvious. An upgrade at QB didn't have to specifically be in the draft.[/quote]He said that there were hardly anyone on here clamoring for o line or dline or receiver, That statement is what he was flat out wrong about. I responded by saying there were plenty of people that wanted to draft o line high and that did not want to draft a qb in the first, you can quibble over what “ hardly anyone” or “draft line high” means but I’m going to bow out at this point

[FLORIDARAYDAH]

[quote=SkullCrusher post_id=1281178]. I'm a little puzzled how many are looking past Eichenburg hurt by the loss of Spillane. But this is his time to shine, it's almost perfect, one year get your feet wet and go. Now sure he has to perform, but is there any indication he can't?[/quote]The fact he couldn't sniff the field on a banged up D doesn't scream confidence. He wasnt considered a full time player coming out. Hoping he can get some reps but not expecting much

[DanKD]

[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1281187]The fact he couldn't sniff the field on a banged up D doesn't scream confidence. He wasnt considered a full time player coming out. Hoping he can get some reps but not expecting much[/quote]We have to keep in mind that Pierce prioritized saving his job over player development

[FLORIDARAYDAH]

[quote=DanKD post_id=1281188]We have to keep in mind that Pierce prioritized saving his job over player development[/quote]We were desperate for bodies and still rarely saw him. I don't think he was considered starter material when he was drafted. Two down guy at best. I see him more as a ST guy who gets some reps

[DanKD]

[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1281190]We were desperate for bodies and still rarely saw him. I don't think he was considered starter material when he was drafted. Two down guy at best. I see him more as a ST guy who gets some reps[/quote]Yes he was seen a run down linebacker. My point is another coach may have given him the opportunity and maybe hed have stepped up. I just dont really trust much coming from the last staff. Yes Graham was the DC but Pierce still had final say.

Ive also no doubt he and Graham had disagreements and Graham would have been out of here if AP stayed as coach. Tommy may suck but we dont know enough yet to say.

[pfish57]

[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1281187]The fact he couldn't sniff the field on a banged up D doesn't scream confidence. He wasnt considered a full time player coming out. Hoping he can get some reps but not expecting much[/quote] Yea I don't recall him contributing much, but now he is a starter??? Maybe Gainer & Burney can make some strides!

[SkullCrusher]

[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1281187]The fact he couldn't sniff the field on a banged up D doesn't scream confidence. He wasnt considered a full time player coming out. Hoping he can get some reps but not expecting much[/quote]Spillane played all 17 games.

[FLORIDARAYDAH]

[quote=SkullCrusher post_id=1281196]Spillane played all 17 games.[/quote]And at times he was our only healthy LB. We started any healthy body off the streets over him

[Kwk2293]

[quote=SkullCrusher post_id=1281196]Spillane played all 17 games.[/quote]deablo did miss a start which apparently eichenburg got start as mlb spillane played wlb. but yes lb core was healthy not alot of chances for him to play

[FLORIDARAYDAH]

[quote=Kwk2293 post_id=1281208]deablo did miss a start which apparently eichenburg got start as mlb spillane played wlb. but yes lb core was healthy not alot of chances for him to play[/quote]Diablo played in 14 games. 3 of those he had 3 tackles or less. He was questionable a lot last season.
If you want to look at games played Eich had 14 as well

[SkullCrusher]

Eich played 80 snaps, 13 measly tackles. 1 tackle per 6 snaps.

Spill 1095 (Raiders used him like no other in his career) 158 tackles. 1 tackle per 7 snaps.

So obviously Eich would have more tackles if given the same amount of snaps. :)

[raidersince63]

[quote=Trainnvain post_id=1281139]Tons of people were highly critical of the offensive line play last year and wanted to use a high draft pick and/or free agency to upgrade. You are flat out wrong in that regard.[/quote]Missed this...if I had used the term "tons of people" instead of "very few, if any"...would you have even responded?

[Sold My Soul]

The most expensive offenses in the NFL:

1. $182.9M - Falcons 2. $162.9M - Chiefs 3. $157.8M - Bengals 4. $157.5M - Rams 5. $153.0M - Commanders 6. $150.4M - Buccaneers 7. $148.7M - Lions 8. $147.9M - Bills 9. $147.3M - Cowboys 10. $145.9M - Panthers 11. $136.6M - Dolphins 12. 34.1M - Bears 14. $133.6M - Cardinals 15. $133.4M - Colts 16. $126.4M - Saints 17. $124.1M - Vikings 18. $121.6M - Browns 19. $120.6M - Ravens 20. $119.9M - Titans 21. $118.4M - Texans 22. $118.1M - Jets 23. $116.6M - Chargers 24. $116.3M - Broncos 25. $112.4M - 49ers 26. $111.8M - Packers 27. $103.4M - Patriots 28. $101.9M - Raiders 29. $101.7M - Jaguars 30. $101.4M - Giants 31. $77.0M - Steelers 32. $59.2M

[Sold My Soul]

Top Five Best Deals From 2025 NFL Free Agency

HONORABLE MENTIONS:

Raiders traded 2025 3rd (No. 92) for Seahawks QB Geno Smith

This is a trade which is why I didn’t rank it higher, but considering a new deal for Smith is going to be part of this transaction I figured I could fudge things and include it as an honorable mention. Your opinion of Smith likely impacts your opinion of this deal for the Raiders, but consider the plight of other quarterback-needy teams right now.

The Steelers and Giants are on pins and needles waiting for Aaron Rodgers to decide if he’ll play for them or hold out for a spot in Minnesota after being dumped by the Jets — a team that thought it was better to pivot to giving $30 million guaranteed to Justin Fields and his career 14-30 record rather than bring back Rodgers.

If Pittsburgh and New York miss out on Rodgers, the backup plan is Russell Wilson, who has been rejected by both organizations in some fashion over the last 12 months.

If both miss on Rodgers and one misses on Wilson, Plan C is either Joe Flacco or Jameis Winston… Neither team is assured of finding a starter in the draft, either.

The Browns are a factor in all of this too, as right now the only healthy quarterback on their roster is Kenny Pickett who was acquired in a trade with the Eagles. They could sign Wilson or Flacco to go along with a rookie, either with the No. 2 pick or later on, or try to work out some sort of compromise with the Falcons who are squatting on QB Kirk Cousins and the $37.5M in guarantees he’s owed over the next two years.

Now consider that the Raiders, picking No. 6 overall and too low for a top quarterback prospect in all likelihood, landed arguably the best and most established starter available for the cost of the No. 92 pick and a deal that will probably slot Smith in around No. 15 among all quarterbacks league-wide.

It’s a pretty solid outcome.