Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
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RaiderandBulldog
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FLORIDARAYDAH
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[quote=Willmark post_id=1130563]No Carolina. If he was (in part) happy with Downing because of his faith. It will be more so with Reich. Note, just an observation.[/quote]Faith aside I think Carolina is a great fit. they have a lot of talent ,good weather,and its not a high pressure place to play. Plus that division is wide open for team to step up
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[quote=Ocoordinator post_id=1130570]Dump his ass, pay the minimal hit and move on. He’s loving all the attention knowing he’s in control. Raiders screwed the pooch on this one. If we get anything at all I’d be surprised.
Raiders could even agree to pay a portion of his salary. As in whatever the hit may be if we just cut him.[/quote]The raiders didn't screw anything at all. They created a contract with the smallest amount of guaranteed money that is paid to a QB with 30+ million dollars. With larger guaranteed money Carr's contract would be harder to move. The fact that teams are interested in talking to Carr despite his large contract is a testament to the fact that they have no issues in taking over the contract & will be able to rework it to suit their cap.
Raiders could even agree to pay a portion of his salary. As in whatever the hit may be if we just cut him.[/quote]The raiders didn't screw anything at all. They created a contract with the smallest amount of guaranteed money that is paid to a QB with 30+ million dollars. With larger guaranteed money Carr's contract would be harder to move. The fact that teams are interested in talking to Carr despite his large contract is a testament to the fact that they have no issues in taking over the contract & will be able to rework it to suit their cap.
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Viper
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[quote=silver_ghost post_id=1130572]The raiders didn't screw anything at all. They created a contract with the smallest amount of guaranteed money that is paid to a QB with 30+ million dollars. With larger guaranteed money Carr's contract would be harder to move. The fact that teams are interested in talking to Carr despite his large contract is a testament to the fact that they have no issues in taking over the contract & will be able to rework it to suit their cap.[/quote]They most certainly did. Please explain to me the rationale behind sitting your starting Qb and basically letting the whole league know you’re either dumping him or attempt to trade him before next season and, - again, - AND, negating trade value that was certainly there before dumb move.
Might there still be a trade? Sure, but I’m gonna put a whole bunch on the fact it isn’t going to be anywhere close to what they would’ve gotten had they played him the last 2 days and kept it quiet that he was on the trade block.
Spin it any way you need to but you won’t convince me otherwise.
We can agree to disagree…peace
Might there still be a trade? Sure, but I’m gonna put a whole bunch on the fact it isn’t going to be anywhere close to what they would’ve gotten had they played him the last 2 days and kept it quiet that he was on the trade block.
Spin it any way you need to but you won’t convince me otherwise.
We can agree to disagree…peace
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HesterLayes
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I love McD although many don’t..the fact that he got in the princess ass in film and on the sideline on occasion makes me love him even more
I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?
I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?
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Oaktownonly
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[quote=Vercingetorix post_id=1130559]I have coworkers telling me that Carr is a great QB. They pull up stats online...say "Look! He is the best Quarterback they ever had!" And absolutely, will NOT listen to what I know. I ask back "Have you watched every game he has played for the Raiders? Because I have. You don't understand."
"When did he ever have a true #1 WR? How many systems has he been through?" they ask me.
I concede to them the organization has been dysfunctional. But the things about Carr that you cannot see in that Skills challenge?? WE Raiderfans know.
It's just so irritating.[/quote]The only answer you need to give them is when it's 4th and game, your quarterback can't be throwing to gophers.
Conversation will be over.
"When did he ever have a true #1 WR? How many systems has he been through?" they ask me.
I concede to them the organization has been dysfunctional. But the things about Carr that you cannot see in that Skills challenge?? WE Raiderfans know.
It's just so irritating.[/quote]The only answer you need to give them is when it's 4th and game, your quarterback can't be throwing to gophers.
Conversation will be over.
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Oaktownonly
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[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1130576]I love McD although many don’t..the fact that he got in the princess ass in film and on the sideline on occasion makes me love him even more
I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?
[/quote]This is where I pray we're moving in the right direction. They saw he isn't the guy. What else do they see?
I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?
[/quote]This is where I pray we're moving in the right direction. They saw he isn't the guy. What else do they see?-
HesterLayes
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[quote=Oaktownonly post_id=1130581]This is where I pray we're moving in the right direction. They saw he isn't the guy. What else do they see?[/quote]That’s all we can do is hope.
Eliminating the number one problem is a promising start..just wish they had made the move way earlier.
Eliminating the number one problem is a promising start..just wish they had made the move way earlier.
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Oaktownonly
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[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1130582]That’s all we can do is hope.
Eliminating the number one problem is a promising start..just wish they had made the move way earlier.[/quote]Same here but what we've been seeing for years they were seeing for the first time. The steelers game was the final straw.
Eliminating the number one problem is a promising start..just wish they had made the move way earlier.[/quote]Same here but what we've been seeing for years they were seeing for the first time. The steelers game was the final straw.
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HesterLayes
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[quote=Oaktownonly post_id=1130585]Same here but what we've been seeing for years they were seeing for the first time. The steelers game was the final straw.[/quote]Yeah that Steelers game was a blessing in disguise.
Z has stated they will add QBs like I mentioned and although they didn’t draft one they did add Garbers.Not a big fan,but maybe they see something.
I want to win now,so that’s why ARod is appealing,but I’m leaning to building long term to battle the Mahomes,Burrows,Allen’s,etc.
We may have to take it on the chin this year with Stidham and a rook,but it’s probably the smart move.Who knows though,one of those could blow up and have a great year.
Davis scares me though..he seems committed to Z and McD.I hope he lets them build.
Z has stated they will add QBs like I mentioned and although they didn’t draft one they did add Garbers.Not a big fan,but maybe they see something.
I want to win now,so that’s why ARod is appealing,but I’m leaning to building long term to battle the Mahomes,Burrows,Allen’s,etc.
We may have to take it on the chin this year with Stidham and a rook,but it’s probably the smart move.Who knows though,one of those could blow up and have a great year.
Davis scares me though..he seems committed to Z and McD.I hope he lets them build.
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Oaktownonly
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[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1130586]Yeah that Steelers game was a blessing in disguise.
Z has stated they will add QBs like I mentioned and although they didn’t draft one they did add Garbers.Not a big fan,but maybe they see something.
I want to win now,so that’s why ARod is appealing,but I’m leaning to building long term to battle the Mahomes,Burrows,Allen’s,etc.
We may have to take it on the chin this year with Stidham and a rook,but it’s probably the smart move.Who knows though,one of those could blow up and have a great year.
Davis scares me though..he seems committed to Z and McD.I hope he lets them build.[/quote]I want to win for years to come. Build this thing right. We need a QB and we absolutely have to hit on the picks on D. We have to be able to get to Mahomes.
Z has stated they will add QBs like I mentioned and although they didn’t draft one they did add Garbers.Not a big fan,but maybe they see something.
I want to win now,so that’s why ARod is appealing,but I’m leaning to building long term to battle the Mahomes,Burrows,Allen’s,etc.
We may have to take it on the chin this year with Stidham and a rook,but it’s probably the smart move.Who knows though,one of those could blow up and have a great year.
Davis scares me though..he seems committed to Z and McD.I hope he lets them build.[/quote]I want to win for years to come. Build this thing right. We need a QB and we absolutely have to hit on the picks on D. We have to be able to get to Mahomes.
[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1130576]I love McD although many don’t..the fact that he got in the princess ass in film and on the sideline on occasion makes me love him even more
I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?
I didn’t see that when it happened, does anybody have the video clip of it?
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I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?
I didn’t see that when it happened, does anybody have the video clip of it?
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Carr supporter: Carr is Nickelback. I don't bother making jokes about Carr anymore because I can't top the ones made by his true believers.
https://twitter.com/gamerbro415/status/ ... 9451732993
https://twitter.com/gamerbro415/status/ ... 9451732993
[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1130576]I love McD although many don’t..the fact that he got in the princess ass in film and on the sideline on occasion makes me love him even more
I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?
[/quote]What game did that happen? Carr probably wanted to cry right then and there Lol
I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”
I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?
[/quote]What game did that happen? Carr probably wanted to cry right then and there Lol-
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[quote=chucker post_id=1130590]Carr supporter: Carr is Nickelback. I don't bother making jokes about Carr anymore because I can't top the ones made by his true believers.
https://twitter.com/gamerbro415/status/ ... 9451732993[/quote]"Tainted perception due to media"? Is this guy serious!?
Just cut him now and he can wear a helmet with just the NFL logo on it in the flag football bowl.
https://twitter.com/gamerbro415/status/ ... 9451732993[/quote]"Tainted perception due to media"? Is this guy serious!?
Just cut him now and he can wear a helmet with just the NFL logo on it in the flag football bowl.
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HesterLayes
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[quote=Tatum32 post_id=1130591]What game did that happen? Carr probably wanted to cry right then and there Lol[/quote]Trying to find it..it wasn’t long and he didn’t chew his ass too bad,but was pissed and pointing to his head like “you dumb f’”