Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Attyla]

we shall see, I have offered the bet, his credibility is on the line. Either he can back his claims and accept or he is a fraud. there is no middle ground.

[HesterLayes]

I just don’t read his stuff

[Sold My Soul]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1102219]Tell you what Ivan (and yes, you posting in the Carr thread encourages me to look) I will make you a serious bet. You say the first round QBs are busts. I will allow you to put your money where your mouth is....If even one of the top 3 QBs drafted in 2023 are starting in year 3, you stop posting forever. If none of the three is not starting (or number 1 on the depth chart but not starting due to injury) I will do the same. And everyone knows that is quite a thing for me to bet considering. That gives you three years to be right. And by start of 2026 if one is starting, by definition, that means not a bust.

Care to take me up on this or are you going to pretend you never posted that the first round QBs next year are busts and move onto another completely false narrative. How about it, economist? You claim you are never wrong, prove it.[/quote]https://thepatriotgazette.com/wp-conten ... 2H28m.jpeg

My.........Lock Of The Year.

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Over & over I read that we can get rid of Derek Carr pretty cheap next year against the cap.

What I want to know is if we keep him for 2023 are we obligated to keep him for 2024? (not obligated,but you know)

Meaning,will his contract be guaranteed after 2023? or can we dump him in 2023 with hardly anything against the cap in 2024?

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[quote=TallMarvin post_id=1102254]ivan is not going anywhere.

every board has people who's sole purpose is to make wild statements and drive board traffic. every. board.

all part of the plan. great gig if you can get it.[/quote]The angle monster

[chucker]

[quote=crowbar post_id=1102288]Over & over I read that we can get rid of Derek Carr pretty cheap next year against the cap.

What I want to know is if we keep him for 2023 are we obligated to keep him for 2024? (not obligated,but you know)

Meaning,will his contract be guaranteed after 2023? or can we dump him in 2023 with hardly anything against the cap in 2024?[/quote]If we keep Carr for 2023 then $7.5 million of his 2024 salary is guaranteed. So if we cut him in 2024 then the dead money hit is about $12 million when you add on the dead money from his signing bonus.

[Amish Cabal]

[quote=Hellbound post_id=1102216]He did say he could team up with people and win[/quote]Yeah, he said he could get with his buddies and win a Super Bowl, but he'll do us a huge favor and grace us, the lowly Raiders, with his omni-presence instead, super nice, awesome and loyal guy that he is.

[Xramfan]

[quote=TallMarvin post_id=1102254]ivan is not going anywhere.

every board has people who's sole purpose is to make wild statements and drive board traffic. every. board.

all part of the plan. great gig if you can get it.[/quote]Every board has a couple of members do these bets. Usually resulting in a loser leaving for a few months before returning and then getting called out for returning resulting in more back and forth from each poster and their allies and it goes on and on and on like sand through the hour glass and dysfunctional Raider seasons, these are the days of our lives...

I'm just here for the beer and popcorn

(On a side note, a better bet is a reasonable amount of money put up which the loser has to donate to the charity of the winners choice)

[Raidernation1979]

[quote=Xramfan post_id=1102333]Every board has a couple of members do these bets. Usually resulting in a loser leaving for a few months before returning and then getting called out for returning resulting in more back and forth from each poster and their allies and it goes on and on and on like sand through the hour glass and dysfunctional Raider seasons, these are the days of our lives...

I'm just here for the beer and popcorn

(On a side note, a better bet is a reasonable amount of money put up which the loser has to donate to the charity of the winners choice)[/quote]Any bet on a message board involving 3+ years is ludicrous in and of itself.

[Attyla]

[quote=Raidernation1979 post_id=1102334]Any bet on a message board involving 3+ years is ludicrous in and of itself.[/quote]the duration is due to the subject matter. Anything less does not establish bust or not. I suppose we could augment the bet to say if in year 2 all three are benched for performance issue (benched as in permanent demotion) I would lose. But the duration also gives Ivan plenty of time to create narratives whereby he gets to back out in his usual fashion.\

As for myself, if I lose, I honor the bet, pure and simple. I am not making this lightly and know what is at stake. It really does not matter though, Ivan cannot accept and he will ignore that these posts exist at all. Oh and for the record, it will also create some interesting conversation if he did accept over the next three years. You all should be thanking me for creating content for your entertainment.

So, Al's Shadow, the ball is in your court. You got the huevos your repeated claims or are you gonna dodge this like every other time calls you for your cliams?

[3rd and Long]

Ivan already won because he's living rent free....

You sound obsessed with some dude on a message board

[Attyla]

[quote=3rd and Long post_id=1102348]Ivan already won because he's living rent free....

You sound obsessed with some dude on a message board[/quote]There is background to this you are probably not aware of. Ivan targets members behind the scenes going back to the previous boards. He has actually bragged to me via PM about this member or that member he got riled up to the point where they got banned. So, he has finally opened himself up to be the focus of his own tactics. At least I am in the open on this. It is a bet, no more. If he accepts, it is business as usual. It amuses me and will off up entertainment for the board.

You are welcome.

[Silver in Blood]

Most are familiar with the idiom, "sticks out like a sore thumb". Ivan is nothing more than a troll. Zzz...

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[quote=chucker post_id=1102311]If we keep Carr for 2023 then $7.5 million of his 2024 salary is guaranteed. So if we cut him in 2024 then the dead money hit is about $12 million when you add on the dead money from his signing bonus.[/quote]Thank you.

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You two, be cool.

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