Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[RadJack]

Hmmm I can see this thread still sucks..

[GoodTimeCharlie]

[quote=RadJack post_id=1071332]Hmmm I can see this thread still sucks..[/quote]And it will for any ardent Carr acolyte until Carr, the yellow-bellied chickenshit donkey-brained little sissy stops sucking, gagging, and falling fetal every time a defender gets in the same zip code.

[sooperkool]

These Carr fantasy scenarios.....

Personally, I'm just going to watch the season and hope for the best.

[Opoponax50]

[quote=Amish Cabal post_id=1071319]Week 15. Adams will never say a word. But by week 9, he's sick of his shit. By week 15, he's ready to bitch slap his buddy for being the pussy he is. Adams is used to a competent QB. His career will suffer with Derek Carr. Just like Tyreek Hill won't be the same WR in Miami.[/quote]Hmm. In the divisional round against SF Adams was wide open late and Rodgers threw over his head to a receiver that was double covered. IIRC, it was a third down situation and Adams would've picked up a good 20+ yards. Rodgers' miss likely cost GB that game.

Every QB misses open receivers, but Rodgers missed one at the worst possible time.

Certainly Carr has his share of missed opportunities (a helluva lot more than Rodgers) and it likely won't change.

[signal]

[quote=srv5490 post_id=1071323]I have a feeling that having Adams on the team is going to push Carr, and he will have one of his strongest and most consistent seasons.

That said, I will only truly believe it when I see it.[/quote]Yes, I am more interested in seeing what Carr will do than what Carr has done.

And agree, his game must evolve if the Raiders want to become a contender. Adams pushing Carr, possibly Josh provides a system where he is able to overcome some of his weaknesses or at least finds a way to hide them, possibly even the years being in the league and experience accumulated will usher in improvement, or a combination of these things will make Carr better this upcoming season than he has been.

But I am with you, I hope this occurs, but am not convinced it will happen till it happens.

[Raiders Baby]

[quote=srv5490 post_id=1071323]I have a feeling that having Adams on the team is going to push Carr, and he will have one of his strongest and most consistent seasons.

That said, I will only truly believe it when I see it.[/quote]In some ways, getting Adams could be like getting 1.5 good players instead of just 1 good player. Not only Adams himself, but I’m hoping that between the pre-existing trust and the push one will have on the other, we get more “good Carr”.

Even we Carr haters can admit that Carr is a good player when he’s good — the problem is consistency, and folding when the moment is the biggest. I don’t know if any player can fix that for Carr, but if there is one, it’s Adams.

[Attyla]

[quote=RadJack post_id=1071332]Hmmm I can see this thread still sucks..[/quote]but thanks for your amazing contributions

[GoodTimeCharlie]

[quote=sooperkool post_id=1071344]These Carr fantasy scenarios.....

Personally, I'm just going to watch the season and hope for the best.[/quote]Speaking of Carr fantasy scenarios, my favorite was just 498 pages ago…

[quote=Lamonica_D post_id=1002753]It’s a nice feeling to have an elite QB.

I feel bad for the teams that don’t. Not.

Looking like Rodgers out there just flicking those angles and wrist. Too damn good.

And too damn accurate compared to other QBs. Those ball placements are insane.[/quote]As to the season, yup, hope for the best. I’ll be doing the same. Just without expectations. Haven’t had any since 2017.

(Btw, curious word association. A sentence with “sucking”, “gagging”, “fetal”, and “Carr”, and your first thought is “Fantasy”.)

[Jeremyturner1976]

[quote=raiders93 post_id=1071367]Agree. Waller was not walking in from the 7 yard line and is probably just getting forced out of bounds since his momentum was heading towards the sideline.

It looked like Waller may have been running a wheel of some sort though which is a different story. The ball was already gone before he turned upfield but if that was his route and Carr held onto the ball a little longer - it’d be a 1-on-1 between 6’6” Waller and 5’11” bell in the end zone.[/quote]You are always a straight shooter and fair, I appreciate your posts because you call it like it is, good or bad. I may not always agree, but I know coming in that it will be a solid representation of reality.

I agree, given zero chance of success with who he targetted and no pressure, Waller could have become a target easily if Carr had just waited and tried to create. Hell, not many can cover Renfrow for very long either. It could have been our Montana/Clark 'The catch' moment - it was not because the guy with the ball failed at his job.

It does not help that he was terrible for the rest of the game also... a sub 70 passer rating is terrible.

[Raider727]

[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1071371]You are always a straight shooter and fair, I appreciate your posts because you call it like it is, good or bad.

I agree, given zero chance of success with who he targetted and no pressure, Waller could have become a target easily if Carr had just waited and tried to create. Hell, not many can cover Renfrow for very long either. It could have been our Montana/Clark 'The catch' moment - it was not because the guy with the ball failed at his job.

It does not help he sucked the rest of the game also...[/quote]It could've been a huge turning point, if Carr makes that play in how people perceive Carr's play in big games. What people fail to forget that defend Carr's last pass against Cincinnati in the playoffs is that the Raiders had a 1st and goal. Carr wasted a play by spiking it and couldn't do anything the next 3 plays.

Anyways, after the off-season the Raiders have had and Carr signing a prove it deal, I'm looking forward to what will happen. Hopefully Carr proves us doubters wrong, I will be rooting for him to do so.

If Carr continues to not improve in the redzone, 2nd half of the season, fumbling, and not putting up touchdowns with these pass catchers and 6 time Super Bowl champion offensive coordinator calling plays, Carr's gotta go.

[Rainman56]

[quote=GoodTimeCharlie post_id=1071341]And it will for any ardent Carr acolyte until Carr, the yellow-bellied chickenshit donkey-brained little sissy stops sucking, gagging, and falling fetal every time a defender gets in the same zip code.[/quote]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... 3/Carr.jpg

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[Ivanavich]

The "I'd rather lose without Carr than win with Carr" crowd always buying the most expensive seats to boo from the closest spots.

This crowd has failed for 8 seasons... but still expects another season to be different.

[raiders93]

[quote=Raider727 post_id=1071374]It could've been a huge turning point, if Carr makes that play in how people perceive Carr's play in big games. What people fail to forget that defend Carr's last pass against Cincinnati in the playoffs is that the Raiders had a 1st and goal. Carr wasted a play by spiking it and couldn't do anything the next 3 plays.

Anyways, after the off-season the Raiders have had and Carr signing a prove it deal, I'm looking forward to what will happen. Hopefully Carr proves us doubters wrong, I will be rooting for him to do so.

If Carr continues to not improve in the redzone, 2nd half of the season, fumbling, and not putting up touchdowns with these pass catchers and 6 time Super Bowl champion offensive coordinator calling plays, Carr's gotta go.[/quote]Seems like good or bad this season is going to be career defining for Carr. It’s nice to have all that talent around you but now as the QB all eyes are on you to lead that team to results… and all eyes are on you if the team doesn’t deliver. As easy as it is to write off a QB in a good environment as being a product of their environment… it’s almost a skill in itself to be able to lead a championship caliber team. It’s hard to hide it as the QB if you’re the one being carried (garropolo, Goff, cousins, etc…)

[Attyla]

[quote=Ivanavich post_id=1071391]The "I'd rather lose without Carr than win with Carr" crowd always buying the most expensive seats to boo from the closest spots.

This crowd has failed for 8 seasons... but still expects another season to be different.

[/quote]good theory but we have lost far more often than won during his career. I for one do not know if it will be different but if it is not, we will, on average, have a losing record this year. If that happens, I am sure you will come up with some reason that revolves around a linebacker or some such nonsense

[GoodTimeCharlie]

[quote=Ivanavich post_id=1071391]The "I'd rather lose without Carr than win with Carr" crowd always buying the most expensive seats to boo from the closest spots.

This crowd has failed for 8 seasons... but still expects another season to be different.



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