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Are we #3 on the backs of other fans traveling to Vegas to do the two-fer?

When you look at a team, you see 53 players, a nice stadium, ticket sales, concessions and parking, TV contracts and merchandise.

You have to think all teams have to be close in these numbers and not 100s of millions apart.

So what's the difference between an Ohio team and Vegas or Dallas etc?

The CAP keeps that spending close...
TV contracts nationally are the same...
Concessions can't be a billion dollar difference...
Ticket sales could be worth a lot, but still not account for the huge difference in valuations...

Rabidraider wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:09 pm When you look at a team, you see 53 players, a nice stadium, concessions and parking, TV contracts and merchandise.

You have to think all teams have to be close in these numbers and not 100s of millions apart.

So what's the difference between an Ohio team and Vegas or Dallas etc?

the haves and have nots remain far apart (billions) everytime a team moves and gets a new stadium the value goes up a lot

Rabidraider wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:09 pm When you look at a team, you see 53 players, a nice stadium, ticket sales, concessions and parking, TV contracts and merchandise.

You have to think all teams have to be close in these numbers and not 100s of millions apart.

So what's the difference between an Ohio team and Vegas or Dallas etc?

Ability to generate long term revenue. And some teams can do it far better than others.

Attyla wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:13 pm Ability to generate long term revenue. And some teams can do it far better than others.

vegas has proven to be better at it then most,even though we are not a winning team

Attyla wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:13 pm Ability to generate long term revenue. And some teams can do it far better than others.

Define long term revenue.

mstrbass2000 wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:12 pm the haves and have nots remain far apart (billions) everytime a team moves and gets a new stadium the value goes up a lot

I don't see how the building changes the huge difference in valuation. Raiders building is owned by Las Vegas Sports authority. And that cost was 2 billion.

Rabidraider wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:16 pm Define long term revenue.

Well, many teams are owned by families so they are an asset that is generational. I think that is a reasonable answer.

Rabidraider wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:20 pm I don't see how the building changes the huge difference in valuation. Raiders building is owned by Las Vegas Sports authority. And that cost was 2 billion.

Far cry from the days in Oakland, the Raiders had no control over the venue except for the 10 days they had games. They paid rent upwards of 7M dollars.

Vegas, the Raiders control everything about Allegiant, non Raider events, they schedule them, they collect all revenues from said events. Not a cent reaches the public's hands.

That is a night and day turn from their days at the Coliseum. To go from collecting revenues just on the 10 game days to collecting revenues for 38($280M) events in 2025. That is money in the Raiders pockets that never existed in Oakland. To compare, the 49ers collected 5.3M in 2025 for non football events.

Do the Las Vegas Raiders pay rent? Nope. The building is a major difference.

Rabidraider wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:09 pm When you look at a team, you see 53 players, a nice stadium, ticket sales, concessions and parking, TV contracts and merchandise.

You have to think all teams have to be close in these numbers and not 100s of millions apart.

So what's the difference between an Ohio team and Vegas or Dallas etc?

The CAP keeps that spending close...
TV contracts nationally are the same...
Concessions can't be a billion dollar difference...
Ticket sales could be worth a lot, but still not account for the huge difference in valuations...

It's a guess because they can't tell for sure what billionaires may do. Whoever is at the bottom could sell next week for a record breaking amount and you know what that does?. It bumps every team up above that in the current same order Dallas #1, Raiders #3, just at more fictional dollars.

Too bad we aren't 3rd winningest

That’s nice and all but it doesn’t allow us to buy wins.