The Offensive Line Coach Thread

[Willmark]

As we just saw with the departure of Brennan Caroll under the latest Raiders regime- Offensive Line coach is critical. So much so, I’d argue after the OC (or in our case HC/OC combo) it’s the most crucial position coach on the offensive staff. (Maybe QB Coach too)

We can’t get Bill Callahan and Dante Scarneccia (formerly of NE) is retired. Who else is out there? Quick aside- Dante pieced together offensive lines in NE with spit, glue, rubber bands and duct tape and they won Super Bowls.

I’m also off the mindset this hire might matter even more than DC. We’ve got a lot of pieces for the offensive line that I believe were simply used or not instructed on why they wanted them to do last year.

We’re not talking best line ever in the history of the game, but I think we can take a huge step forward from what we saw last year with the right coach.

[heavyD]

It will be more zone blocking under Kubiak I imagine. I’m sure he has someone in mind as he’s probably sent out feelers to potential candidates.

[Attyla]

An option out there that is not without question would be Chris Kapilovic. Alabama's line coach for a couple years. Not sure why he was not retained, he had good success with their players.

[Willmark]

Another reason why this is critical is Mayer. He has been criminally underused but multiple OCs. We Need to get him engaged as a critical part of the offense. And he blocks.

IMO we have almost all the pieces we need for the line sans Linderbaum. Get him and we are a long way towards solving the line.

[chucker]

My preference is for Kubiak to choose his favorite oline coach in the game, even if he's gainfully employed, and see if he can get him interested in the OC position. If he's interested, his current team couldn't block a move because it's for a coordinator position. The Oline coach is a more important position than OC, given that Kubiak will be the true OC, so use the OC designation to get the best oline coach you can.

[skullnbonz]

My preference is for Kubiak to choose his favorite oline coach in the game, even if he's gainfully employed, and see if he can get him interested in the OC position. If he's interested, his current team couldn't block a move because it's for a coordinator position. The Oline coach is a more important position than OC, given that Kubiak will be the true OC, so use the OC designation to get the best oline coach you can.

Is the title of co- offensive coordinator or running game coordinator considered a non-lateral move?

[Willmark]

No matter who it is it’s a step up from last year but that’s because Carroll was so bad.

[Attyla]

Is the title of co- offensive coordinator or running game coordinator considered a non-lateral move?

For hiring purposes, each team has an OC and a DC. You cannot poach multiple position coaches for those roles. You can poach one of each. running game coordinator would be a title that would be a lateral move so would need permission if they are under contract.

[chucker]

Is the title of co- offensive coordinator or running game coordinator considered a non-lateral move?

The rules specifically refer to the offensive, defensive and special teams coordinator positions. If you have "co-coordinator" positions, you'd have to designate one of them as the "lead". Hiring for those positions (or head coach) are the only positions where a coach's current team cannot block a move. Even if you were offering a low level quality control coach a job as "Senior Offensive Advisor and Assistant Head Coach and Passing Game Coordinator", his current team could block the move. Some teams might not block it, and some would.

[GoodTimeCharlie]

A few names for offensive dudes connected to Coach Kūb that haven’t been OCs yet.

Andrew Janocko. QBCoach (Seahawks)
Worked with Kubiak on the New Orleans Saints offensive staff (as QB coach) and followed him to the Seattle Seahawks when Kubiak became OC.

John Benton. OLCoach (Seahawks)
Joined the Seahawks’ offensive staff alongside Kubiak after coaching with him in New Orleans; has extensive offensive line coaching experience but has not been an NFL offensive coordinator.

Michael Byrne. O Asst (Seahawks)
Worked under Klint Kubiak with the New Orleans Saints and then with him again on the Seahawks offensive staff; offensive assistant/analyst background without an OC title.

Jordan Traylor. Asst OC / Asst QB Coach (Vikings)
Spent multiple seasons on the New Orleans Saints coaching staff under Klint Kubiak (moving from scouting/defensive roles into offensive roles) and later joined the Vikings offensive staff. A rising offensive coach.

Christian Jones. Asst QB Coach (Giants)
Worked with Klint Kubiak on the Minnesota Vikings coaching staff in offensive quality control and assistant receivers roles before advancing as an assistant quarterbacks coach with the Giants.

[GoodTimeCharlie]

From “12th Man Rising”.

https://12thmanrising.com/if-klint-kubi ... could-hurt

[Sir Raider Duck, OMS]

Bob Wylie is in his 70s but knows offensive line coaching in and out (he might still run annual clinics that teach young o-line coaches how to coach the position). If he's physically up to it, he could be another option. He did a great job during Hue's season.

[chucker]

Bob Wylie is in his 70s but knows offensive line coaching in and out (he might still run annual clinics that teach young o-line coaches how to coach the position). If he's physically up to it, he could be another option. He did a great job during Hue's season.

He can do magic.

[Willmark]

Staying with the line?

If need be the Raiders can restructure Miller and Crosby. Open up the checkbook and front load Linderbaum’s contract. That would dovetail with when Mendoza’s contract balloons, assuming he pans out.

An we might be north of 100 million in FA $ anyways; might not even need to do anything with Miller or Crosby’s contracts this year.

[chucker]

Staying with the line?

If need be the Raiders can restructure Miller and Crosby. Open up the checkbook and front load Linderbaum’s contract. That would dovetail with when Mendoza’s contract balloons, assuming he pans out.

It's possible to do restructures, but I wouldn't recommend it. We don't need the cap space and it just creates more dead money later if you're moving on via cut or trade. Restructures aren't necessarily bad unless they prevent you from moving on from an underperforming player, but when you have as much cap space as we have, they just aren't necessary. Staying in a more pay-as-you-go mode with guys under contract allows for decision flexibility down the road.