Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Robblake]

[quote=rich72 post_id=1084288]When Derek Carr is cut from the Raiders at the end of this season, I will argue, successfully I might add that not only was Derek a terrible Raiders QB, I will make the case that there has NEVER been a worse Raiders QB.[/quote]Lmao yeah.. okay

[Be_Easy_25]

https://twitter.com/victafur/status/157 ... hwdkgeHh-A

Jayce Frost responding to the media.

[Attyla]

[quote=FlyBono24 post_id=1084278]Don't post REAL stats on here. "They" only like the bullshit, subjective stats that vary depending on the outlet (and whether they know football or not).... like pressures, and dropped passes

Not sure how the f[raiders_icon]ck they had ZERO dropped passes on Sunday when Waller himself had at least two, and Cole had 1 obvious one[/quote]you posted a stat and then posted a contradictory stat.

this is a discussion and a huge amount of football is subjective. The stats create discussions of what subjectively they mean. You do it all the time

[Hellbound]

[quote=FlyBono24 post_id=1084275]Exactly.... having Sunday Ticket is great... you get to watch and/or record every game.

I watched part of the Bucs game. Brady threw some bad ones into the turf on Sunday... Packers D was getting to his confidence. If Carr threw those in the dirt, he would be f[raiders_icon]cking crucified by the "fans" on here. [/quote]Stop saying Nrady and Carr in the same breath. Also Brady was down to backup olinemen and a 4th wr as one of the starters. That was a constant excuse on here for Carr for years

[sooperkool]

[quote=Hellbound post_id=1084296]Stop saying Nrady and Carr in the same breath. Also Brady was down to backup olinemen and a 4th wr as one of the starters. That was a constant excuse on here for Carr for years[/quote]So the bar that you're setting for our QB s is going to be greatest of all time?

[tactician]

[quote=Be_Easy_25 post_id=1084291]https://twitter.com/victafur/status/157 ... hwdkgeHh-A

Jayce Frost responding to the media.[/quote]So it's the coaches fault?

[Attyla]

[quote=sooperkool post_id=1084298]So the bar that you're setting for our QB s is going to be greatest of all time?[/quote]Carr himself has referenced Favre and Kobe's games in a comparison to himself. So if Carr compares himself to the greats of sport, he kinda leaves himself open to comments along those lines

But the line play has been one of the constant reasons why he has failed on these boards. Even this season when the line has primarily done a decent job. It is like those who said if he only had a decent defense. Well, the defense has not been that bad overall and yet here we are.

[Amish Cabal]

Or a #1 receiver.

[GoodTimeCharlie]

[quote=Be_Easy_25 post_id=1084291]https://twitter.com/victafur/status/157 ... hwdkgeHh-A

Jayce Frost responding to the media.[/quote]Ahhhh, that’s why it looks like Carr stares down one receiver and never goes through the progressions. He’s not doing it with his eyes, but with his ears. Impressive.

[CWood24]

When i watch Carr play this is the weaknesses i see

One read QB then checks down to safe option
Statue in the pocket doesn't use his athleticism
Feels phantom pressure
Under & over throws receivers
Floats the long ball
Fades away when it REALLY matters
Can’t score in the RZ


When he is on it he can be good but when was the last time he was really good for anymore than just one game in isolation, when was the last time he had a run of good games

[GoodTimeCharlie]

[quote=sooperkool post_id=1084248]I don't defend or condemn anyone, you'll notice that I rarely post in here either way.

I 'm a statistician I either post interesting stats or correct incorrect ones,. My last post did both.[/quote]I count 8 posts in the last 3 pages. Seems a number too high to claim you “rarely post in here”. But then, I’m no “statistician”.

[Attyla]

so it bears the question, is a one read QB who checks down a one read QB?

[Spirit in Black]

[quote=Be_Easy_25 post_id=1084291]https://twitter.com/victafur/status/157 ... hwdkgeHh-A

Jayce Frost responding to the media.[/quote]Lmao he said the same shit with Gruden. Just deflect the blame on the playcaller again.

[Raider727]

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Carr's 1st NFL start vs Jets

"We had some shot plays called down the field, and a couple of those opportunities, for whatever the reason was, we didn't get the ball down the field and ended up having to check it down," coach Dennis Allen told the Oakland Tribune.

https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/103 ... kP1kVfhXbQ


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Why would Carr not throw to open receivers on plays McDaniels designed? That doesn't even make sense.

Especially when Carr has a history of not throwing where coaches want.

[CWood24]

[quote=Raider727 post_id=1084313]https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/157 ... CrV5shcOZg

Carr's 1st NFL start vs Jets

"We had some shot plays called down the field, and a couple of those opportunities, for whatever the reason was, we didn't get the ball down the field and ended up having to check it down," coach Dennis Allen told the Oakland Tribune.

https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/103 ... kP1kVfhXbQ


https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/925 ... SBQRsH24yg


Why would Carr not throw to open receivers on plays McDaniels designed? That doesn't even make sense.

Especially when Carr has a history of not throwing where coaches want.[/quote]Because that has been Carr’s m.o all his playing career

People blaming McDaniels is fair but there are rumour abound that Carr isnt picking up the playbook as quickly as he should which is impacting this offence

Carr is safety first we seen that when he throws perfectly good ball away when his players has a step on his man he wont throw till he is completely open