Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
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RaiderandBulldog
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Jeremyturner1976
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Does anyone think being 31 has put Carr on the decline?
He used to throw a hell of a football, but watching these games he can't even do that anymore.
I know it seems early in age, but those results are irrefutable. The dude is throwing like Trubisky out there.
Sub 62% completions after 4 years of 68% or better.
He used to throw a hell of a football, but watching these games he can't even do that anymore.
I know it seems early in age, but those results are irrefutable. The dude is throwing like Trubisky out there.
Sub 62% completions after 4 years of 68% or better.
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raiders1988xyz
adams about to see why cooper and antonio brown quit on carr
any more of losing and pussy ball from carr, he will request a trade
any more of losing and pussy ball from carr, he will request a trade
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Opoponax50
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1083773]Does anyone think being 31 has put Carr on the decline?
He used to throw a hell of a football, but watching these games he can't even do that anymore.
I know it seems early in age, but those results are irrefutable. The dude is throwing like Trubisky out there.
Sub 62% completions after 4 years of 68% or better.[/quote]He's definitely lost something on the long ball. It began happening last year when he started throwing those balloon balls where before he could put a 40 yarder on a line. It was so bad I wondered if he had an injury to his throwing shoulder that wasn't being disclosed. Now though, even his short-ball placement isn't what it used to be. He's throwing hospital balls rather than throwing low. He's throwing high on short, outside passes too.
He's definitely lost significant zip on the ball.
He used to throw a hell of a football, but watching these games he can't even do that anymore.
I know it seems early in age, but those results are irrefutable. The dude is throwing like Trubisky out there.
Sub 62% completions after 4 years of 68% or better.[/quote]He's definitely lost something on the long ball. It began happening last year when he started throwing those balloon balls where before he could put a 40 yarder on a line. It was so bad I wondered if he had an injury to his throwing shoulder that wasn't being disclosed. Now though, even his short-ball placement isn't what it used to be. He's throwing hospital balls rather than throwing low. He's throwing high on short, outside passes too.
He's definitely lost significant zip on the ball.
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Jeremyturner1976
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[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1083780]He's definitely lost something on the long ball. It began happening last year when he started throwing those balloon balls where before he could put a 40 yarder on a line. It was so bad I wondered if he had an injury to his throwing shoulder that wasn't being disclosed. Now though, even his short-ball placement isn't what it used to be. He's throwing hospital balls rather than throwing low. He's throwing high on short, outside passes too.
He's definitely lost significant zip on the ball.[/quote]It is like watching a different QB to me. I saw him throw Davante wide by 3 yards on a pass to the flat - with noone near him. Davante couldn't even get fingertips on it.
He has never played this poorly before in terms of accuracy.
He's definitely lost significant zip on the ball.[/quote]It is like watching a different QB to me. I saw him throw Davante wide by 3 yards on a pass to the flat - with noone near him. Davante couldn't even get fingertips on it.
He has never played this poorly before in terms of accuracy.
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raiders1988xyz
[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1083780]He's definitely lost something on the long ball. It began happening last year when he started throwing those balloon balls where before he could put a 40 yarder on a line. It was so bad I wondered if he had an injury to his throwing shoulder that wasn't being disclosed. Now though, even his short-ball placement isn't what it used to be. He's throwing hospital balls rather than throwing low. He's throwing high on short, outside passes too.
He's definitely lost significant zip on the ball.[/quote]carr broke a pinky
He's definitely lost significant zip on the ball.[/quote]carr broke a pinky
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raiders1988xyz
i remember carr throwing a nice deep ball in 2015 and 2016
to holmes against the jets that year
to cooper against the buccaneers in 2016
to ruggs against the steelers in 2021
to holmes against the jets that year
to cooper against the buccaneers in 2016
to ruggs against the steelers in 2021
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tactician
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1083773]Does anyone think being 31 has put Carr on the decline?
He used to throw a hell of a football, but watching these games he can't even do that anymore.
I know it seems early in age, but those results are irrefutable. The dude is throwing like Trubisky out there.
Sub 62% completions after 4 years of 68% or better.[/quote]
No one loses their arm at 31. A lot of QB's play their best ball in their 30's.
He used to throw a hell of a football, but watching these games he can't even do that anymore.
I know it seems early in age, but those results are irrefutable. The dude is throwing like Trubisky out there.
Sub 62% completions after 4 years of 68% or better.[/quote]
No one loses their arm at 31. A lot of QB's play their best ball in their 30's.
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Jeremyturner1976
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[quote=tactician post_id=1083789]
No one loses their arm at 31. A lot of QB's play their best ball in their 30's.[/quote]I agree, that is what I am trying to figure out though.
It seems painfully obvious that he is missing throws he should make and 68% to 62% completions is huge. 62% is damn near the bottom tier.
Like Oppo said also, even on the ones he completes the ball placement has been poor.
He used to be able to make passes that maybe 5-10 NFL QBs could make and I always credited him for his physical ability. These huge misses though, time and again, that is new.
Hell for three years he was a top rated deep passer also (Not in quantity, but in completions per throw), and he has been awful this year. He had a 6 passer rating on deep throws before the Titans for example.
9/27 in the redzone iirc and even adding drops he would only be 12/27.
Something seems to be going on, this is new territory imo. Just curious if it is standing out to others.
No one loses their arm at 31. A lot of QB's play their best ball in their 30's.[/quote]I agree, that is what I am trying to figure out though.
It seems painfully obvious that he is missing throws he should make and 68% to 62% completions is huge. 62% is damn near the bottom tier.
Like Oppo said also, even on the ones he completes the ball placement has been poor.
He used to be able to make passes that maybe 5-10 NFL QBs could make and I always credited him for his physical ability. These huge misses though, time and again, that is new.
Hell for three years he was a top rated deep passer also (Not in quantity, but in completions per throw), and he has been awful this year. He had a 6 passer rating on deep throws before the Titans for example.
9/27 in the redzone iirc and even adding drops he would only be 12/27.
Something seems to be going on, this is new territory imo. Just curious if it is standing out to others.
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Raidernation1979
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Agree on Carr being off. If you go back what about 10 games? He’s on maybe his worst 10-11 game streak of his career. He’s usually a mixed between elite, average and bad. He’s just been bad to average. We have seen elite Carr in a long time
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HesterLayes
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Do you think a team like the Giants would trade for Carr?
Colts like their vet QBs,Ryan is washed ,you think they would?
Just thinking out loud if any team would take him and his contract on.Could really change the fate of our franchise.
Colts like their vet QBs,Ryan is washed ,you think they would?
Just thinking out loud if any team would take him and his contract on.Could really change the fate of our franchise.
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BluegrassRaider
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1083773]Does anyone think being 31 has put Carr on the decline?
He used to throw a hell of a football, but watching these games he can't even do that anymore.
I know it seems early in age, but those results are irrefutable. The dude is throwing like Trubisky out there.
Sub 62% completions after 4 years of 68% or better.[/quote]When is the last time the out wasn't a dead quail asking to be a pick six? Like 2015?
Guys are always going on about him being able to make all the throws but is that even true at least practically and in the heat of a game CONSISTENTLY?
Magic 8 Ball says...meh.
He used to throw a hell of a football, but watching these games he can't even do that anymore.
I know it seems early in age, but those results are irrefutable. The dude is throwing like Trubisky out there.
Sub 62% completions after 4 years of 68% or better.[/quote]When is the last time the out wasn't a dead quail asking to be a pick six? Like 2015?
Guys are always going on about him being able to make all the throws but is that even true at least practically and in the heat of a game CONSISTENTLY?
Magic 8 Ball says...meh.
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[quote=raiders1988xyz post_id=1083397]the chiefs will f[raiders_icon]cking destroy us in 2 weeks on monday night football
the raiders are going 1-4 or 0-5 into the bye week[/quote]0-5
the raiders are going 1-4 or 0-5 into the bye week[/quote]0-5
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[quote=BluegrassRaider post_id=1083818]When is the last time the out wasn't a dead quail asking to be a pick six? Like 2015?
Guys are always going on about him being able to make all the throws but is that even true at least practically and in the heat of a game CONSISTENTLY?
Magic 8 Ball says...meh.[/quote]Yes carr can throw the ball to where ever you tell him to throw it.
Guys are always going on about him being able to make all the throws but is that even true at least practically and in the heat of a game CONSISTENTLY?
Magic 8 Ball says...meh.[/quote]Yes carr can throw the ball to where ever you tell him to throw it.
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[quote=NoThanksSir post_id=1083590]I'm gonna push back on this one. This throw is the new expectation for top tier QBs, and Carr is consistently paid like one. It's not an easy throw, but it's a throw he should make considering he is our highest paid player and has teacher's tenure when it comes to job security. He's simply not that good. If he were, he would make those.[/quote]It's not an easy throw what he did. But he didn't have to do it that way. He had plenty of yards in front of him with no defenders close and he could have and should have taken two steps forward and stepped into the throw...and that would have made the throw a lot easier mechanics wise. But carr being carr he does that and makes a stupid and weak throw.
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[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1083807]Do you think a team like the Giants would trade for Carr?
Colts like their vet QBs,Ryan is washed ,you think they would?
Just thinking out loud if any team would take him and his contract on.Could really change the fate of our franchise.[/quote]NO WAY IN HELL! No team will trade for carr, not with how lousy he is and with that salary....not unless their front office/ownership are as stupid as the Raiders has been.
Colts like their vet QBs,Ryan is washed ,you think they would?
Just thinking out loud if any team would take him and his contract on.Could really change the fate of our franchise.[/quote]NO WAY IN HELL! No team will trade for carr, not with how lousy he is and with that salary....not unless their front office/ownership are as stupid as the Raiders has been.