Pete Carroll is officially the Raiders HC

[JRaider17]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 6145411365

[haji81872]

[quote=chucker post_id=1270528]They did make a trade of a couple first rounders for a strong safety..... that never seemed smart.

But Carroll had personnel control in Seattle, I don't think he'll have it with the Raiders. Spytek will want to help get Carroll what he thinks he needs but I think Spytek has the authority to do what the organization needs long term.[/quote]No, that did not work out, but that was not when he was building his team, but trying to extend its window.

And yes, he is not going to have that kind of authority here.

[Marzan]

[quote=haji81872 post_id=1270532]To me the only hot young assistant was ben Johnson. No one else fit the bill. Coen just didn't seem ready to me and all of his bouncing around the last few years concerned me. Plus, we dodged something like KK happening again. That whole thing with what went down with Jacksonville chaps my hide.[/quote]I think Joe Brady would have been a decent option too. But again, he’s used up to having a guy like Allen and we have no QB

[chucker]

[quote=haji81872 post_id=1270532]To me the only hot young assistant was ben Johnson. No one else fit the bill. Coen just didn't seem ready to me and all of his bouncing around the last few years concerned me. Plus, we dodged something like KK happening again. That whole thing with what went down with Jacksonville chaps my hide.[/quote]We also don't know what "hot young assistant" will be a great HC and which one will crash and burn. Kevin O'Connell wasn't a hire that looked hot at the time and now he's regarded as one of the best in the game. The Vikings went for the low floor - high ceiling approach and hit the jackpot. Plenty of teams have busted with that approach with more heralded hires.

[Raiderfanrich]

This will be a really good hire and just what the organisation needs right now. Things are looking up

[haji81872]

[quote=Marzan post_id=1270536]I think Joe Brady would have been a decent option too. But again, he’s used up to having a guy like Allen and we have no QB[/quote]Yeah, I though of Joe, but when I think of hot young coach I think of a guy who is innovative, does a lot of scheming and out of the box thinking.

Brady is more of a traditional kind of guy, but he is maybe the best in the league at calling plays. Always the right play at the right time. See a step a head and knows what the defense it going to do before they do.

Which I would love as a coach.

[islandboy]

I am happy to not have to worry about clock management and wonder if the HC is involved on the sidelines.

[haji81872]

[quote=chucker post_id=1270537]We also don't know what "hot young assistant" will be a great HC and which one will crash and burn. Kevin O'Connell wasn't a hire that looked hot at the time and now he's regarded as one of the best in the game. The Vikings went for the low floor - high ceiling approach and hit the jackpot. Plenty of teams have busted with that approach with more heralded hires.[/quote]Well stated.

Most Viking fans hated the hire at the time too. They wanted Harbaugh and went ballistic when they didn't get him. DeMarco Ryan and Raheem Morris where at the top of the list, because they needed a defensive guy. A lot of who the hell is this guy? Doesn't McVey call the plays?

[FlyBono24]

Saints probably hiring McCarthy which means Klint Kubiak would be available.
I wonder if we get him as OC.
Saleh as DC would be a great hire too.

[DanKD]

[quote=haji81872 post_id=1270532]To me the only hot young assistant was ben Johnson. No one else fit the bill. Coen just didn't seem ready to me and all of his bouncing around the last few years concerned me. Plus, we dodged something like KK happening again. That whole thing with what went down with Jacksonville chaps my hide.[/quote]100%. For me Ben J was worth the risk due to him doing it for more seasons and with a non elite QB. Also he was part of a terrible franchise that got turned around instead of coordinating an offense for a year of a team already contending for or recently winning a SB.

With him gone, getting someone who wont be overwhelmed by our suckitude and can change that is our best bet.

[KillerRaider30]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1270506]He knows talent, and that is big. He creates a culture others buy into, and that is big. He wins and that is huge. He will command instant respect universally, and that is what we need. He is a big personality so our big personalities will recognize that.

And I am sure Dufus will cut up his meat so he can eat it.[/quote]Please don't serve me the Kool-aid yet. I want to wallow in my Raider misery till free agency. Thanks ;-)

[ALLRAIDERWORLD21]

With Pete being a defensive guy, does anyone think Rob Leonard gets elevated to DC? Leonard was not granted any interviews by Raiders meaning they wanted to keep him in house. I wonder if that was the plan..

[chucker]

[quote=ALLRAIDERWORLD21 post_id=1270545]With Pete being a defensive guy, does anyone think Rob Leonard gets elevated to DC? Leonard was not granted any interviews by Raiders meaning they wanted to keep him in house. I wonder if that was the plan..[/quote]I really want Leonard to be DC.

[NoThanksSir]

[quote=haji81872 post_id=1270532]To me the only hot young assistant was ben Johnson. No one else fit the bill. Coen just didn't seem ready to me and all of his bouncing around the last few years concerned me. Plus, we dodged something like KK happening again. That whole thing with what went down with Jacksonville chaps my hide.[/quote]Exactly. We made our play for the top guy and he didn't pick us. Plan B is the most qualified guy available bar none. I'm fine with that. Sometimes things don't go as planned by no fault of your own. But moving forward and making the right decision is key. Rather than doubling down and forcing a mistake like Coen is what we would have done in the past. There's a reason Brady never even brought him in for an interview

[Sir Raider Duck, OMS]

A few thoughts after reading everyone else's:

1) Carroll will probably only be here the 3-4 years of his contract before retiring again, but that will be enough time to make us winners and install offensive and defensive systems and staffs that he can pass off to a designated successor.

2) Carroll's reputation as a coach, and his standing policy of never blocking assistants from leaving for better jobs, means his staff should be among the best in the league

3) Unlike the other old guy people were aiming for (Hoodie), Carroll has a record of success with multiple QBs including plucking Geno Smith (of all people) off the trash heap and turning him into a quality signal-caller.

I like this hire. I really do.

[Sir Raider Duck, OMS]

[quote=Corleone post_id=1270481]I know that, was being a bit sarcastic, like how the HOF display had Stabler as a Saint.[/quote]On another Raiders board I frequent, I sometimes tweak the Oakland residents by referring to Dodger Great Rickey Henderson.