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Tank is full speed ahead!

pfish57 wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:53 pm The fact that people stay on a forum all day long, and argue about Crosby is what I find mind boggling...get a life people!!!

And yet you are here. The Moose Lodge must have invested in a Gateway personal computer with a prepaid AOL subscription.

Toast wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:57 pm And yet you are here. The Moose Lodge must have invested in a Gateway personal computer with a prepaid AOL subscription.

Strike a nerve? Actually toast I just got home from playing 18, and I didn't think about the Raiders once during the round;)

pfish57 wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 1:07 pm Strike a nerve? Actually toast I just got home from playing 18, and I didn't think about the Raiders once during the round;)

Alzheimer's setting in?

I honestly don’t understand why this is even an issue.
How hard is it for someone in the organization to sit Maxx down and just be real with him? Like:
“Look, we had to sit you. Not because we don’t value you, but because winning a couple meaningless games at the end of a lost season would’ve screwed us again. We finally did the responsible thing for once and said, ‘No, we’re not going to win pointless games and destroy our draft position.’ And honestly, we still almost messed it up — thank God for the Giants.
And we didn’t just do this for the team… we did it for YOU too. Maxx, you deserve a real quarterback. You deserve to play for something bigger than 6 wins every year.
Because if we played you and accidentally won those last two games, and it cost us the #1 pick, what the hell were we supposed to do at QB? Run it back with another washed-up veteran for the fourth year in a row? Is that really what you want?”
I just don’t understand how you don’t see that we’re literally trying to make this better — not just for the Raiders, but for you. You claim to love this organization, and this was the best move for the organization long-term.
And yeah, I get it if you’re tired of rebuilding for the millionth time. But this rebuild needed to happen whether you got benched or not. Sitting you those last few games wasn’t some personal attack — it was just reality.
We would be in a WORSE position right now if we didn’t bench you. And we’re sick of watching you go out there in late December when the season has been over for weeks.
We need a quarterback. That’s the whole point. And we’re finally in a position to be able to do something about it!

How do you know they did not sit him down and have a conversation?

It's all for his upcoming book. "As the Condor Turns". Chapters by years. 2025 is the benching chapter and 2026 the trade rumor chapter. It all fits now!

Attyla wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 1:25 pm How do you know they did not sit him down and have a conversation?

That’s fair, maybe they did sit him down and talk to him.
But if that conversation actually happened and they explained the bigger picture, then why would he still be this upset with the organization? That’s what doesn’t make sense to me.
It’s honestly mind-blowing that he’d value a couple meaningless games at the end of a dead season over the next 2–4 years of the franchise actually having a real QB and a future.
Something just isn’t adding up to me.

Attyla wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 1:25 pm How do you know they did not sit him down and have a conversation?

No doubt they did. I think there are some that do not understand professionalism and closed door meetings. Not everyone conducts their business over social media, unless your name is Antonio Brown, of course he also has experience in closed door meetings of a different type and they typically include law enforcement or a couch.

Raiderman4 wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 1:38 pm That’s fair, maybe they did sit him down and talk to him.
But if that conversation actually happened and they explained the bigger picture, then why would he still be this upset with the organization? That’s what doesn’t make sense to me.
It’s honestly mind-blowing that he’d value a couple meaningless games at the end of a dead season over the next 2–4 years of the franchise actually having a real QB and a future.
Something just isn’t adding up to me.

If he disagreed with tanking? Honestly, I don't think they even tanked. I think Carroll for one knew that every loss was going to seal his fate and he refused to coach himself out of a job. I just think we were that bad. We did find out that the knee injury was bad enough to shut him down. I think the doctors shut him down and that was that. I have no proof other than my knowledge of how patient care is handled and my somewhat good knowledge of the CBA and player safety as it relates to the CBA

Toast wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:57 pm And yet you are here. The Moose Lodge must have invested in a Gateway personal computer with a prepaid AOL subscription.

Not a member of the moose or Elks lodge but they have to be the cheapest bars in town along with better than decent food.

Attyla wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 1:42 pm If he disagreed with tanking? Honestly, I don't think they even tanked. I think Carroll for one knew that every loss was going to seal his fate and he refused to coach himself out of a job. I just think we were that bad. We did find out that the knee injury was bad enough to shut him down. I think the doctors shut him down and that was that. I have no proof other than my knowledge of how patient care is handled and my somewhat good knowledge of the CBA and player safety as it relates to the CBA

The team definitely was not tanking, they were just that bad.
But if Maxx saw how dysfunctional and shitty things were, why didn’t he speak up in the middle of the season? Why wait until the end when the season was already dead?
From the outside looking in, it just seems like he got frustrated with the organization because they wouldn’t let him do what he loves to do — play football.
I don’t think the injury had much to do with anything, for if we were actually competitive this year, there’s no way he’s getting benched those last few games, injury or not.

“Hey Maxx, will you come on our program for a little Q&A?”

Option A: “Yes”
Option B: “No”

Raiderman4 wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 1:53 pm The team definitely was not tanking, they were just that bad.
But if Maxx saw how dysfunctional and shitty things were, why didn’t he speak up in the middle of the season? Why wait until the end when the season was already dead?
From the outside looking in, it just seems like he got frustrated with the organization because they wouldn’t let him do what he loves to do — play football.
I don’t think the injury had much to do with anything, for if we were actually competitive this year, there’s no way he’s getting benched those last few games, injury or not.

Guys tend not to air dirty laundry or reveal the locker room. But again, how do you know he did not privately? As for the injury, we know now it was a lot more extensive than we were lead to believe. While it would not have kept him from playing had we been in the hunt, I believe the team shut him down because it was bad enough to require significant surgery.

Attyla wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 2:41 pm Guys tend not to air dirty laundry or reveal the locker room. But again, how do you know he did not privately? As for the injury, we know now it was a lot more extensive than we were lead to believe. While it would not have kept him from playing had we been in the hunt, I believe the team shut him down because it was bad enough to require significant surgery.

I think we should just be honest with him. "Maxx we shut you down so we would have the best opportunity to take a swing at a young QB" That's literally it.

pfish57 wrote: Fri Feb 13, 2026 12:53 pm The fact that people stay on a forum all day long, and argue about Crosby is what I find mind boggling...get a life people!!!

What’s even more mind boggling are the people who burn precious moments of their fulfilling lives to come here and tell others how to live.