Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Jeremyturner1976]

[quote=1970 455+ post_id=1057859]I get it you hate Carr, but don't let that hate blind you of reality[/quote]Loosely translated as 'you are correct but I am so emotionally invested into Derek that I can't accept reality'.

Show me Carr stepping up - you can't so like all illogical arguments you pack your bags and go home.

Well.... bye.

[toobscruiser]

[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1057860]Just saying, I waited 8 years to give Carr the benefit of the doubt of 'maybe playoffs will be enough to see him play well - maybe those 4th quarter heroics translate into winning big games - maybe all this patience pays off with an Eli level playoff QB'.

It turns out that he plays like crap in the playoffs. A sub 70 passer rating is Josh Rosen level numbers.

It happened, the moment came and he choked. Deal with it. I wish it did not happen, but the results are what they are.

Noone gets to whitewash that reality.[/quote]Now that’s a good post. Made your point with evidence to back it up. I’m not arguing against how he played in his lone playoff game. Those are valid criticisms

[1970 455+]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1057861]Since 2002:

12 season before Carr 53-123. Zero playoff appearances.

This team was a disaster before he got here. 18-16 since the move to Vegas and trending in the right direction.[/quote]Very true. Don't give up yet Jeremy. This is the year!!!!!

[Opoponax50]

Is there a difference between "important" and "big" games? "Big" games seem to be either a playoff game or a win-and-you're-in type of game at the end of a season.

"Important" games seem to be games that are division tie breakers. That is, if you win the game, you take the lead in your division (or at least become tied for first). These games usually occur after the halfway point in the season. Also, it is apparent at the time the game is played that it's important.

The rest are just games and only in retrospect can they be called important, e.g. our losses to NYG, Washington, and Chicago.

Whatever. The new regime is paying Carr big money and spending big on offense. We've seen this before and we know how it turned out. Let's hope it's different this time around.

[toobscruiser]

[quote=1970 455+ post_id=1057864]Very true. Don't give up yet Jeremy. This is the year!!!!![/quote]Last year we were the 5th seed in the entire division. We lost by 7 to the eventual AFC champs. Around here you’d think we were 2-15

[1970 455+]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1057868]Last year we were the 5th seed in the entire division. We lost by 7 to the eventual AFC champs. Around here you’d think we were 2-15[/quote]I like what you did there! Clever

[Attyla]

[quote=1970 455+ post_id=1057870]I like what you did there! Clever[/quote]of course you do, your agenda suggests that a faction of the board agrees with toobscruiser's comment.

problem is, nobody has suggested anything close to what he said.

[toobscruiser]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1057871]of course you do, your agenda suggests that a faction of the board agrees with toobscruiser's comment.

problem is, nobody has suggested anything close to what he said.[/quote]Believe me, I’m quite aware 90% of this board doesn’t agree with me. I’m not trolling either, I do believe what I post. I’m sure if I ever met anyone here at a game they’d let me have it, in good fun I hope.

[Attyla]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1057875]Believe me, I’m quite aware 90% of this board doesn’t agree with me. I’m not trolling either, I do believe what I post. I’m sure if I ever met anyone here at a game they’d let me have it, in good fun I hope.[/quote]and yet, if you believe what you post, you think last season some equate it to 2-15

that's on you because nobody even came close to that

but if we met at a game, you would be most welcome to share a beer with me.

We all may disagree with things on the site, but we are all fans of the same team. If we allow our opinions here denigrate to violence in reality we have lost sight of what is really important. I for one refuse to go down that rabbit hole

[Willmark]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1057875]Believe me, I’m quite aware 90% of this board doesn’t agree with me. I’m not trolling either, I do believe what I post. I’m sure if I ever met anyone here at a game they’d let me have it, in good fun I hope.[/quote]Nope.

Even those I disagree with? The Raiders are what (should) bind us all. Players? Different story (and opinions).

[RaiderWu]

[quote=KillerRaider30 post_id=1057308]https://twitter.com/derekcarrqb/status/ ... FHLkA&s=19[/quote]Translation: “I want my cake and eat it too.”

Not everyone lives in that rose-colored world of yours Derek. Not every thing is fixed with “love”, however grit and testicular fortitude will take you a long way.
Grow a pair!!!

[Xramfan]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1057875]Believe me, I’m quite aware 90% of this board doesn’t agree with me. I’m not trolling either, I do believe what I post. I’m sure if I ever met anyone here at a game they’d let me have it, in good fun I hope.[/quote]First of all...after introductions Id high five you and give you a courtesy bro hug lol. After that we would just eat phenomenal food, drink whatever is indicated at the time and talk Raiders.....if we disagree a bit....no damage whatsoever....friends first always

For reference....I am a Dodgers fan but a few of my closest friends are Giants fans....we are all good lol

[toobscruiser]

[quote=Xramfan post_id=1057914]First of all...after introductions Id high five you and give you a courtesy bro hug lol. After that we would just eat phenomenal food, drink whatever is indicated at the time and talk Raiders.....if we disagree a bit....no damage whatsoever....friends first always

For reference....I am a Dodgers fan but a few of my closest friends are Giants fans....we are all good lol[/quote]Giants fans as friends? You’re a saint

[Raiderfanguy]

Carr finally has a top reciever. The last of this kind was when we had Amari Cooper. This is when Carr was an MVP candidate. He then got injured. Cooper was traded. He hasn't had a number one reciever since. Ruggs, was supposed to be that, and Carr looked great until Ruggs f[raiders_icon]cked up. During his career Carr has put up great numbers without a number one reciever. Imagine what he will do now with Adams.

Antonio Brown was supposed to be that. We all know how that turned out. I expect Carr to be a ln MVP candidate once again, now that we have Adams. I am looking forward to Carr having his best season ever.. Finally he has what other great quarterbacks have always had, a great number one reciever. Get your popcorn ready..

[Raiderfanguy]

[quote=Raiderfanguy post_id=1057921]Carr finally has a top reciever. The last of this kind was when we had Amari Cooper. This is when Carr was an MVP candidate. He then got injured. Cooper was traded. He hasn't had a number one reciever since. Ruggs was starting to be that, and we saw a glimpse of that before he f[raiders_icon]cked up. He's put up great numbers every year without a number one reciever. Imagine what he will do now.

Antonio Brown was supposed to be that. We all know how that turned out. I expect Carr to be a ln MVP candidate once again, now that we have Adams. I am looking forward to Carr having his best season ever.. Finally he has what other great quarterbacks have always had, a great number one reciever. Get your popcorn ready..[/quote]