Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=NoThanksSir post_id=1054312]How? You're talking close to $70 mill in cap needed to sign all 3.[/quote]Figure it out.

[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=352Raider post_id=1054318]This isn't Madden 22[/quote]Babdum tss

If they wanted to make it work - they could.

[Opoponax50]

[quote=CWood24 post_id=1054339]If Carr is indeed the QB for the new regime then they need to tell him if he really wants Adams then needs to take the Brady discount & sign for 20 mil , Adams & Carr for 40 sounds about right although i think Adams is a little overrated

Adams would be a waste of money you could draft a WR & sign a couple of vet for that money & spread the production which would make you far better[/quote]There's also the concern that Adams' success is a result of having Aaron Rodgers as his QB. Rodgers always gets his yards and TDs, regardless of who's playing the WR position.

There are transcendent WRs like Tim Brown who made plays regardless of who the QB was, but is Adams a Tim Brown or Jerry Rice-like talent?

[Attyla]

so you want to tie up about a third of our cap with three guys?

[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1054400]There's also the concern that Adams' success is a result of having Aaron Rodgers as his QB. Rodgers always gets his yards and TDs, regardless of who's playing the WR position.

There are transcendent WRs like Tim Brown who made plays regardless of who the QB was, but is Adams a Tim Brown or Jerry Rice-like talent?[/quote]Where is this concern coming from? Bc most experts would say adams is the best receiver in the league.

[Opoponax50]

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1054403]Where is this concern coming from? Bc most experts would say adams is the best receiver in the league.[/quote]Adams is a good WR, no doubt. But is he the best in the league without Aaron Rodgers throwing to him?

IOW, if Adams were to become a Raider, would he produce at the same level he did in Green Bay? I think that's highly questionable.

[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1054402]so you want to tie up about a third of our cap with three guys?[/quote]Do you somehow know the length of the contract and how much bonus money would be ponied upfront?

Did their agents discuss with you the terms they are looking for?

So how would you know how much cap would be tied up???

[Raider727]

Carr after hearing the news JC Jackson was signed after the Mack trade

https://youtu.be/NOVf-AW4d_o

[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1054407]Adams is a good WR, no doubt. But is he the best in the league without Aaron Rodgers throwing to him?

IOW, if Adams were to become a Raider, would he produce at the same level he did in Green Bay? I think that's highly questionable.[/quote]I don’t think it’s questionable at all bc Carr played with the guy in Fresno state and he sure didn’t miss a step back then. The chemistry is already there and no, Carr isn’t Rodgers, but adams cannot be covered 1 on 1. So with Waller, renfrow, and adams on the field - defenses will have an extremely hard time shutting one valve, when the other two are always open.

[352Raider]

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1054398]Babdum tss

If they wanted to make it work - they could.[/quote]Sure at the expense of the defense. What do you figure their combined cap hit would be?

[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=352Raider post_id=1054418]Sure at the expense of the defense. What do you figure their combined cap hit would be?[/quote]Don’t know. Depends on how many years the contract is and what the raiders plan to do in year 3 or beyond in their contract. Which my guess would be the biggest reason deals fall through. I just think saying we don’t have cap space is a lazy statement

[CWood24]

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1054395]Figure it out.[/quote]Yeah don't do it that’s how you figure it out

[GoodTimeCharlie]

[quote=Raider727 post_id=1054412]Carr after hearing the news JC Jackson was signed after the Mack trade

https://youtu.be/NOVf-AW4d_o[/quote]Not sure how the NFL worked this out, but Derek Carr already has 4 interceptions in the stat column for next year after the Jackson news.

[BluegrassRaider]

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1054395]Figure it out.[/quote]Why to burn money and stack losses?

Y'all seem to be determined to spend almost the whole cap on 5 or 6 guys with only two being playmakers.

[BluegrassRaider]

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1054414]I don’t think it’s questionable at all bc Carr played with the guy in Fresno state and he sure didn’t miss a step back then. The chemistry is already there and no, Carr isn’t Rodgers, but adams cannot be covered 1 on 1. So with Waller, renfrow, and adams on the field - defenses will have an extremely hard time shutting one valve, when the other two are always open.[/quote]A decade ago in a spread offense in college?

No overly meaningful other than to the Fresno Mafia chest beating.