Kirk Cousins (Traded to Vikings)

[Reno Hightower]

I have rarely seen a QB do more with less. Kubiak has made it clear that he is the guy this year but his play has really defied conventional wisdom. The run blocking is as putrid as it was last season. The pass blocking has been getting compliments but how much as that has to do with Cousins's pocket presence and pre snap reads?

I am not sure the subject deserves its own thread but I think what he has accomplished this season cannot be overstated and he has essentially put the offense on his back. I don't think anyone saw this coming.

Thoughts?...

[ALLRAIDERWORLD21]

You mention the fact that Minn will absorb that 10 million of KCs deferred salary, as if they did us a favor that should lower the compensation. The guy has performed like a 50+ million/year QB.

Cousins: 20 TDs 8 Int Comp% 64.1 Total Yards 2340 Yrds/att 7.4 Sacks 11 Rate 97.1
Mahomes: 14 TD 4 Int Comp% 67.3 Total Yards 2037 Yrds/Att 7.7 Sacks 11 Rate 101.8
Allen: 12 TD 6 Int Comp% 66.1 Total Yards 2027 Yrds/Att 8.6 Sacks 17 Rate 99.3
Wentz: 3 TDs 2 Int Comp% 48.4 Total Yards 357 Yrds/att 7.4 Sacks 7 Rate 68.3 (in 3 games)

And this is without any semblance of a run game to share the load, and without a legitimate #1 WR.

For the 1/2 year they will have him, Minn will be expected to receive 25 million in expected on-the-field value. They will pay 10.66 million for that value. Therefore his contract has an expected net surplus value of more than 14 million dollars. They didnt do us any favor by paying next years 10 million. They did themselves a favor. They got a steal. Paying 10.66 million for 25 million in value is a steal. We did them the favor. We gave up the 15% chance we still had of making the playoffs and whatever else he could continue to contribute to Mendoza's further development, all to save their season. And they should have paid more for this, not less. You dont reduce your ask when you are giving the other party a steal. Spytek screwed the pooch by not standing firm and getting more value plus a conditional pick deal here. He still had another 75 minutes before the deadline to go eyeball to eyeball and let the pressure build. Not doing the trade was justifiable from our standpoint. It wasnt from their standpoint. Minn was the party without the leverage, because their season was going down the tubes. Minn wouldnt make the playoffs with Wentz. They will with Cousins.

I call bullshit on the trade evals giving Spytek an "A". More like an "F". A strong case based upon the work of Massey and Thaler can even be made that he should have obtained more than the 2nd round pick (or the better 3rd round pick) outright, PLUS the possibility of an upgraded pick. In addition to other things, we traded away 14.33 million in net surplus value, which is the delta between the on-the-field value for 1/2 year (25 million) and what we would have paid for it (10.66 million). For the moment ignoring everything else we gave up (15% shot at playoffs; mentoring Mendoza; and having a more capable backup than AOC), we should have at least obtained the equivalent in draft capital of 14.33 million of net surplus value. What did we get back? The expected net surplus value of pick 96 (scaled to 2026 cap dollars) is between 2.08 million/yr to 2.34 million/year. Over the course of a 4-yr rookie deal that is a total net surplus value of 8.32 to 9.36 million, far short of the 14.33 million we traded away. Picks 64 and picks 69 have virtually the same values. Over a 4 year rookie deal and scaled to 2026 cap dollars, those picks are worth a total between 12.5 and 13.5 million net surplus value, still less than what was given up. And this just sets the floor for what Spytek should have obtained. There should have been additional compensation for forgoing our shot at the playoffs; and for the loss of mentoring. And beyond that, there is the issue of leverage, which we had and which dictates prices, as much as intrinsic value does. Spytek was absolutely fleeced in this deal.

In 2-3 years it may be the Raiders needing that one piece to put them over the top and the Vikings may have that piece.. thats how it works sometimes..

[Cruisin with Tooz]

In 2-3 years it may be the Raiders needing that one piece to put them over the top and the Vikings may have that piece.. thats how it works sometimes..

If that comes to pass, they wont be getting a sweetheart deal. The way it works is everyone tries to do what is in their own best interest.