Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Bram_Raider]

I will say this, and only this about Carr.
I think he would retire before being traded.
He has enough cash if what I have read is true.
He wants to be a Minister in the future (barf, but it is his choice).
And he has a young family that I cannot imagine him uprooting again.

[novaraider]

[quote=Raider727 post_id=1044488]Cardinals paid $27 mil for Hopkins last year, you never know.[/quote]That was just a 2 year deal though. Adams is going want a way longer term and more guarantees.

[pfish57]

[quote=Bram_Raider post_id=1044507]I will say this, and only this about Carr.
I think he would retire before being traded.
He has enough cash if what I have read is true.
He wants to be a Minister in the future (barf, but it is his choice).
And he has a young family that I cannot imagine him uprooting again.[/quote] We can only Hope, but that is not happening, because the Pussy has a way of making uneducated retards think he has ball's & will succeed...absolute Failure for EIGHT years!

[crowbar]

[quote=novaraider post_id=1044531]That was just a 2 year deal though. Adams is going want a way longer term and more guarantees.[/quote]Adams wants 30 million a year.

[rich72]

[quote=Bram_Raider post_id=1044507]I will say this, and only this about Carr.
I think he would retire before being traded.
He has enough cash if what I have read is true.
He wants to be a Minister in the future (barf, but it is his choice).
And he has a young family that I cannot imagine him uprooting again.[/quote]The entire carr family is a business. He knows he is going to get paid on his next contract, he wont retire.

[Fade2SilverAndBlack]

[quote=rich72 post_id=1044538]The entire carr family is a business. He knows he is going to get paid on his next contract, he wont retire.[/quote]I don't think he'll retire. That's one reason his brother David gave that interview recently mentioning a trade...

Carr also has an overinflated value of how good he thinks he is. So do his brothers. That won't let him walk away.....

Carr also won't retire if the Raiders don't extend him....

I do think at some point he will become a Minister. I do think Carr is a very good human being......

[novaraider]

[quote=crowbar post_id=1044537]Adams wants 30 million a year.[/quote]I know— but the comparison to Hopkins was that hopkins was a 2 year deal. Adams will want 5 or 6 probably— but the longer the term, the lower the AAV. If he signed a two year deal he could probably get 35-40 per.

[nativeraider]

Sometimes I want Carr gone, sometimes I don't. I'll watch this then realize he's solid idk I'm bored.
https://youtu.be/MyPz2hkmVtw

[R8RMick]

Dude can't make HALF these plays. The friggin loser can pound sand.
https://twitter.com/CJ_Errickson/status ... 4rJAw&s=19

[deathstar]

If Derek Carr is coming back. I hope Davonte Adams becomes a Raider. I know he wants $30 million but smart GM can move money around in signing bonuses. I believe Carr, Renfrow, Waller, and Crosby can take the Raiders once gain to the playoffs. I also believe the Raiders can be top 10 offense too. WE need to draft offensive linemen.

[Fade2SilverAndBlack]

[quote=R8RMick post_id=1044550]Dude can't make HALF these plays. The friggin loser can pound sand.
https://twitter.com/CJ_Errickson/status ... 4rJAw&s=19[/quote]Yep. That's why I rather go with Mariota and another vet like Foles at 4 million (for Ivan). You trade Carr for what you could get. It will never be 2-1's. You would be lucky to get a 1 or a 2nd & 3rd...Anyway you take Carrs $$ and use it elsewhere. Then draft a QB for the future in 22 or 2023 draft....I'm sorry but 23TD's and 19TO's and no running ability isn't hard to replace...

I'd like to take a chance on Malik Wills...

[raiders93]

[quote=deathstar post_id=1044552]If Derek Carr is coming back. I hope Davonte Adams becomes a Raider. I know he wants $30 million but smart GM can move money around in signing bonuses. I believe Carr, Renfrow, Waller, and Crosby can take the Raiders once gain to the playoffs. I also believe the Raiders can be top 10 offense too. WE need to draft offensive linemen.[/quote]We’ve got 20 guys under contract and north of 150m in space next off-season… we definitely could .

Theres 2 problems IMO. The first is he’s not walking. If anything it’s a tag and trade situation for GB and they’ll have tons of suitors - I’d imagine it’s at least a 1st and a 2nd if not 2 1sts and then some. The 2nd is that he’s 29 years old. He’s elite right now … he may be worth his asking price for maybe 2 more years.

How much are we willing to give up for a 29 year old receiver?

[pfish57]

[quote=deathstar post_id=1044552]If Derek Carr is coming back. I hope Davonte Adams becomes a Raider. I know he wants $30 million but smart GM can move money around in signing bonuses. I believe Carr, Renfrow, Waller, and Crosby can take the Raiders once gain to the playoffs. I also believe the Raiders can be top 10 offense too. WE need to draft offensive linemen.[/quote]

[Ivanavich]

[quote=R8RMick post_id=1044550]Dude can't make HALF these plays. The friggin loser can pound sand.
https://twitter.com/CJ_Errickson/status ... 4rJAw&s=19[/quote]Mariota got benched by a playoff team, then was released, then signed by a non-playoff team, had to take a pay cut to stay on said team, and hasn't done anything to merit making him a starting QB for the Raiders.

I like to win. Carr wins more than Mariota.

[R8RMick]

Sure.

Mariota beat Kansas City in the playoffs. IN Kansas City. You think Titan's fans aren't regretting that decision? This isn't about Mariota anyway, it's about a stop gap while we replace our quarterback. Because you can put the '85 Bears around Derek Carr, and it's not going to make his liabilities as a player go away.