New coach ………. Again
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 9:12 am
What’s your thoughts? I prefer young offensive minded with a fresh DC. Kubiak, Cooter, Kafka and pair them with someone like Al Harris as the DC.
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Same exact thing was said about Ben Johnson and look where he's at right now. I'd take Kliff over most of these slop names being mentioned.SkullCrusher wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:50 pm Yeah the Kingsbury thing didn't work out either.
Kingsbury must be a little narcissist, one year bomb as OC and now thinks he's a hot com for HC?
Ben seemed 3 top 5 years in a row as OC before HC.BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:10 pm Same exact thing was said about Ben Johnson and look where he's at right now. I'd take Kliff over most of these slop names being mentioned.
Perhaps. It should be quick to see if true.Rabidraider wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:08 pm He did take Daniels to the NFC title game as a rookie. I bet he has eyes fro Mendoza.
I'm just saying people called Ben a narcissist and introvert. People didn't think he would succeed as a HC bc of it.SkullCrusher wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:30 pm Ben seemed 3 top 5 years in a row as OC before HC.
I actually don't hate Kingsbury, but Ben's resume was stronger.
And are retreads in our out?
Kingsbury will just use the Raiders as leverage again. No thanks to that tool.BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:10 pm Same exact thing was said about Ben Johnson and look where he's at right now. I'd take Kliff over most of these slop names being mentioned.
He went to Washington for the QB. He could do great things with Mendoza and 100 million plus cap space.Trainnvain wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:45 pm Kingsbury will just use the Raiders as leverage again. No thanks to that tool.
I didn't mean that the retread coach would lack originality. I meant we would lack originality by hiring one, esp with our personal history of retreads. I'll have to disagree hard with you on Stefanski. I think he's a fraud and yes, I know he won coach of the year. Sometimes you can just tell when a coach doesn't have that 'IT' factor and that's my view of him.Attyla wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:39 pm Retreads have one advantage that can help. They know what they did the first time and if they are bright they learned from that. And a retread does not necessarily lack originality. That said, the only one I would consider is Stefanski, but he would need a very strong OC who called the plays.
That is fair, I said at the time I would likely throw out even more names you would dislike. I have heard names I dislike. But not everyone is going to be happy no matter who gets selected.BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:14 pm I didn't mean that the retread coach would lack originality. I meant we would lack originality by hiring one, esp with our personal history of retreads. I'll have to disagree hard with you on Stefanski. I think he's a fraud and yes, I know he won coach of the year. Sometimes you can just tell when a coach doesn't have that 'IT' factor and that's my view of him.
Isn't Kliff a retread?BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:35 pm I'm just saying people called Ben a narcissist and introvert. People didn't think he would succeed as a HC bc of it.
For me, I want no parts of a retread. Zero. I think it would set this franchise back even more. They need to take a shot on originality with their own up n comer. I'm also all for ringing Cignetti's phone but I don't see that as realistic.
Yes. But if they go the retread route, he'd be my pick.