Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
- RaiderandBulldog
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[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1039515]You do realize that fantasy football stats don't make better QB's. You also realize that throwing to CeeDee Lamb, Amari Cooper are better than throwing to Bryan Edwards and Zay Jones for more than half the season. Have you ever watched Derek Carr play on a consistent basis. Talk about Junk garbage time yards. Thats all Carr is about.[/quote]Sounds the same. We could have used an extra 15 or so touchdowns
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[quote=Raidernation1979 post_id=1039519]Sounds the same. We could have used an extra 15 or so touchdowns[/quote]Give Derek Carr two qualities wide out and he will.
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raiders1988xyz
[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1039520]Give Derek Carr two qualities wide out and he will.[/quote]no, he won't
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[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1039518]They aren't all turnovers. And holding penalties aren't? Just posting about a stat that is 100% wrong that's been posted for the past week.
Lets do simple math that obviously Carr. haters can't do. 14 interceptions and 5 fumbles lost equals 19. NOT 27[/quote]True. It doesn't equal worst in the league for turnovers, it's only second worst. A rookie had more. So there, suck it Carr haters.
Lets do simple math that obviously Carr. haters can't do. 14 interceptions and 5 fumbles lost equals 19. NOT 27[/quote]True. It doesn't equal worst in the league for turnovers, it's only second worst. A rookie had more. So there, suck it Carr haters.
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Actually it's 6 fumbles lost. Add the ints and that's 20 turnovers from the QB position, with half of them coming the last 6 games of the season.... falling in line with his annual late season choke.
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[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1039520]Give Derek Carr two qualities wide out and he will.[/quote]Same Ole sob story and excuses for Carr every offseason, we hear the same crap. Give him this, give him that, if he had _____ guy at wr, rb, or line, OC, HC etc, he'd be the greatest ever! Come on. Can we just admit he's not that good. Maybe other QBs are really so good that they make other look so much better whereas Carr is the opposite?
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[quote=raiders1988xyz post_id=1039521]no, he won't[/quote]Didn't happen with Cooper and Crabtree.
Didn't happen with Waller and Renfrow.
Oh ye of way too much faith!
Didn't happen with Waller and Renfrow.
Oh ye of way too much faith!
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[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1039518]They aren't all turnovers. And holding penalties aren't? Just posting about a stat that is 100% wrong that's been posted for the past week.
Lets do simple math that obviously Carr. haters can't do. 14 interceptions and 5 fumbles lost equals 19. NOT 27[/quote]The team that you keep downtalking is the only reason there were not 27 turnovers. I did say that incorrectly, but it really changes nothing. How many did Carr recover?
Carr lost the ball 27 times and recovered the ball zero times. Enough said.
Lets do simple math that obviously Carr. haters can't do. 14 interceptions and 5 fumbles lost equals 19. NOT 27[/quote]The team that you keep downtalking is the only reason there were not 27 turnovers. I did say that incorrectly, but it really changes nothing. How many did Carr recover?
Carr lost the ball 27 times and recovered the ball zero times. Enough said.
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1039532]The team that you keep downtalking is the only reason there were not 27 turnovers. How many did Carr recover?
Carr lost the ball 27 times and recovered the ball zero times. Enough said.[/quote]You actually think he is going to attempt to dive in there???
Carr lost the ball 27 times and recovered the ball zero times. Enough said.[/quote]You actually think he is going to attempt to dive in there???
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23 TDs and 19 turnovers. That's pretty good numbers if you're talking 1976 stats. But given that it's 2022, those numbers aren't so hot.
Carr's big thing was bringing the team down the field in the waning minutes to win the game, but that didn't happen this past weekend. Instead he threw the interception that ended our season.
We can do the same or better for a lot less money.
Carr's big thing was bringing the team down the field in the waning minutes to win the game, but that didn't happen this past weekend. Instead he threw the interception that ended our season.
We can do the same or better for a lot less money.
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[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1039535]23 TDs and 19 turnovers. That's pretty good numbers if you're talking 1976 stats. But given that it's 2022, those numbers aren't so hot.
Carr's big thing was bringing the team down the field in the waning minutes to win the game, but that didn't happen this past weekend. Instead he threw the interception that ended our season.
We can do the same or better for a lot less money.[/quote] The Carr experiment definitely needs to end...can't see any reason to drag it out into year Nine!
Carr's big thing was bringing the team down the field in the waning minutes to win the game, but that didn't happen this past weekend. Instead he threw the interception that ended our season.
We can do the same or better for a lot less money.[/quote] The Carr experiment definitely needs to end...can't see any reason to drag it out into year Nine!
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[quote=pfish57 post_id=1039551] The Carr experiment definitely needs to end...can't see any reason to drag it out into year Nine![/quote]There's going to be another built in excuse for him if front office to dumb to not move on from him. New staff comes in with new OC then it starts all over yet again, he needs time to learn new offense....
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[quote=Rainman56 post_id=1039534]You actually think he is going to attempt to dive in there???
[/quote]Kinda hard to dive in there when Pussy boy is always "injured" when he fumbles.
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Jimmy Garoppolo, Dak Prescott, and Derek Carr are the same game managing QBs in the NFL. From an unbiased aspect, I rank Jimmy G above those QB because he won multiple playoff games. Jimmy has won more playoffs games than the Dallas Cowboys won for the past 20 years.
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[quote=Attyla post_id=1039385]we have 25 or so guys on roster who I think we can bring back, but we also have about the same number who are not under contract. Which means we are about to have a lot of turnover. We have the coaches questions to answer, as well as possibly the GM as well. All of this after one of the most sickening seasons away from football in my memory. Are we going to rebuild, retool or try to keep the band together and make another run? And tops of the list is what to do about DC? Do we let him play out his deal, resign him, trade him?
The week leading up to our playoff game was one of the best I have enjoyed about this team in a long long time. I wonder if we are on an upward trajectory or did we see fools gold again. Lot of one score games last year and that is probably not sustainable.
The off season is going to suck because of all those questions and no clear answer at this moment. And we are going to end up having a lot of the same conversations we did this last off season until the plan, if there is a plan, comes into focus.[/quote]There is no way we can replicate the success over the last 4 games over the course of a full season. We were going on grit and emotion. We didn’t play quality football. That’s not sustainable. We need a head coach that will get this team prepared and hold people accountable. Rich is a great motivator and obviously guys give their all for him but that approach will fizzle out eventually if players get frustrated with the poor game plans and lack of adjustments coming from the coaching staff.
The week leading up to our playoff game was one of the best I have enjoyed about this team in a long long time. I wonder if we are on an upward trajectory or did we see fools gold again. Lot of one score games last year and that is probably not sustainable.
The off season is going to suck because of all those questions and no clear answer at this moment. And we are going to end up having a lot of the same conversations we did this last off season until the plan, if there is a plan, comes into focus.[/quote]There is no way we can replicate the success over the last 4 games over the course of a full season. We were going on grit and emotion. We didn’t play quality football. That’s not sustainable. We need a head coach that will get this team prepared and hold people accountable. Rich is a great motivator and obviously guys give their all for him but that approach will fizzle out eventually if players get frustrated with the poor game plans and lack of adjustments coming from the coaching staff.