Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
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RaiderandBulldog
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toobscruiser
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[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1038145]The stupidity of Raiders fans has no end.[/quote]This forum is heavily anti-Carr. If you venture out you’ll find most fans appreciate what he’s done.
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raiders1988xyz
[quote=srv5490 post_id=1038153]That's just not true. He had the 7th highest cap figure this season.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2021/[/quote]look at mahomes, still in low cap to resign everyone
next season, his cap will be over 30M i believe
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2021/[/quote]look at mahomes, still in low cap to resign everyone
next season, his cap will be over 30M i believe
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[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1038166]This forum is heavily anti-Carr. If you venture out you’ll find most fans appreciate what he’s done.[/quote]Seems like a very intelligent crowd here! Smart folks that see the truth.
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GoodTimeCharlie
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[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1038166]This forum is heavily anti-Carr. If you venture out you’ll find most fans appreciate what he’s done.[/quote]Which kind of fits your earlier post perfectly.
“The stupidity of Raiders fans has no end.”
“The stupidity of Raiders fans has no end.”
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Willmark
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In reply to "the usual refrain of it isn't Carr's fault" respectfully, often it is. To me this really cuts to the heart of the matter and can't really be argued against.
Sorry if this upsets some folks but its the harsh truth, in 2021 Carr was more likely to turn the ball over than throw a TD:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... ll_passing
2021
INTs: 14 & Fumbles: 13 vs. 23 TDs
No matter what anyone wants to say in defense of him there is really no excusing the turnovers. Were all his fault? No. But in the same vein that evens out because not every TD pass is because of him in the sense that a WR could have made a great play that evens it out IMO.
Turnovers at the worst time from him killed us all year. First Bengals game as a prime example.
Add to this its not just this year, In his career he is far and above a player with his years in the league and his rate. Take for instance fumbles, for a career he is way, way up there:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... career.htm
We often talk about a elite vs not elite here with him. Well, here is one way to look at is the elite QBs ahead of him have no where near his fumbling rate and have far more seasons:
Carr 76 in 8 seasons
(Active Elite QBs)
Rodgers 84 in 16 seasons
Brady 129 in 21 seasons
Fumbles in a way are even worse than INTs due to the (usual) corresponding field position changes.
No matter how you slice it, not good
Sorry if this upsets some folks but its the harsh truth, in 2021 Carr was more likely to turn the ball over than throw a TD:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... ll_passing
2021
INTs: 14 & Fumbles: 13 vs. 23 TDs
No matter what anyone wants to say in defense of him there is really no excusing the turnovers. Were all his fault? No. But in the same vein that evens out because not every TD pass is because of him in the sense that a WR could have made a great play that evens it out IMO.
Turnovers at the worst time from him killed us all year. First Bengals game as a prime example.
Add to this its not just this year, In his career he is far and above a player with his years in the league and his rate. Take for instance fumbles, for a career he is way, way up there:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... career.htm
We often talk about a elite vs not elite here with him. Well, here is one way to look at is the elite QBs ahead of him have no where near his fumbling rate and have far more seasons:
Carr 76 in 8 seasons
(Active Elite QBs)
Rodgers 84 in 16 seasons
Brady 129 in 21 seasons
Fumbles in a way are even worse than INTs due to the (usual) corresponding field position changes.
No matter how you slice it, not good
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BeniciaRaider
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[quote=CWood24 post_id=1038118]I trust Rich Gannon’s opinion of our QB & he has denounced those clutch throws as a nothing stat & rightfully so[/quote]And plenty of former QBs in the media won’t denounce the throws
Off the top of the my head RG3 came out and gave Carr love right after the game
Off the top of the my head RG3 came out and gave Carr love right after the game
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toobscruiser
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[quote=GoodTimeCharlie post_id=1038202]Which kind of fits your earlier post perfectly.
“The stupidity of Raiders fans has no end.”[/quote]That wasn’t my post. Now who’s the dumb dumb?
“The stupidity of Raiders fans has no end.”[/quote]That wasn’t my post. Now who’s the dumb dumb?
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RaiderWu
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[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1038166]This forum is heavily anti-Carr. If you venture out you’ll find most fans appreciate what he’s done.[/quote]I’ve always said the most annoying fans are other Raiders fans.
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RaiderWu
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[quote=GoodTimeCharlie post_id=1038202]Which kind of fits your earlier post perfectly.
“The stupidity of Raiders fans has no end.”[/quote]Carlin said it best:
https://youtu.be/8rh6qqsmxNs
“The stupidity of Raiders fans has no end.”[/quote]Carlin said it best:
https://youtu.be/8rh6qqsmxNs
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GoodTimeCharlie
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[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1038208]That wasn’t my post. Now who’s the dumb dumb?[/quote]Meh, you all sound the same after awhile. Easy to mix y’all up.
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BeniciaRaider
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[quote=srv5490 post_id=1038162]This is simply not true, either. You're on a roll.[/quote]It actually is. Unless there is a busted coverage or you get an open corner, the end zone is blanketed
If you can fit it at the 2 or 1, then your wr has the opportunity to back in.
You get the ball as close as you can and let your guy power it in. Unless the DB hits the wr directly in the back, there’s a good chance the ball breaks the goal line
You should pay a little more attention
If you can fit it at the 2 or 1, then your wr has the opportunity to back in.
You get the ball as close as you can and let your guy power it in. Unless the DB hits the wr directly in the back, there’s a good chance the ball breaks the goal line
You should pay a little more attention
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toobscruiser
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[quote=GoodTimeCharlie post_id=1038214]Meh, you all sound the same after awhile. Easy to mix y’all up.[/quote]
Turn off the talking text and just read. That’s why we all sound the same to you
Turn off the talking text and just read. That’s why we all sound the same to you
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BeniciaRaider
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[quote=RaiderWu post_id=1038209]I’ve always said the most annoying fans are other Raiders fans.[/quote]Especially with he is the most respected guy in the locker room. Guarantee those guys want him back
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Opoponax50
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[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1038126]Who was he going to throw it too? Waller and Renfrow were both 7 yards short of the end zone. Watch the play again before you make stupid comments.
https://twitter.com/bampac29/status/148 ... 95782?s=20[/quote]How about a pump fake to Jones and then a touch pass to Waller? He was under no pressure and could've done that. It's a play that winning QB makes. It's a play where a QB with good field vision sees before it happens and then makes it happen.
I'm not blaming this loss on Carr, but you're just gaslighting us at this point. There was a play to be made there and Carr didn't make it. He got tunnel vision, locked onto Jones, and threw a hopeless pass to a guy who was triple covered. It was a disastrous choice.
https://twitter.com/bampac29/status/148 ... 95782?s=20[/quote]How about a pump fake to Jones and then a touch pass to Waller? He was under no pressure and could've done that. It's a play that winning QB makes. It's a play where a QB with good field vision sees before it happens and then makes it happen.
I'm not blaming this loss on Carr, but you're just gaslighting us at this point. There was a play to be made there and Carr didn't make it. He got tunnel vision, locked onto Jones, and threw a hopeless pass to a guy who was triple covered. It was a disastrous choice.