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I have rarely seen a QB do more with less. Kubiak has made it clear that he is the guy this year but his play has really defied conventional wisdom. The run blocking is as putrid as it was last season. The pass blocking has been getting compliments but how much as that has to do with Cousins's pocket presence and pre snap reads?

I am not sure the subject deserves its own thread but I think what he has accomplished this season cannot be overstated and he has essentially put the offense on his back. I don't think anyone saw this coming.

Thoughts?...

NoThanksSir wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:11 pm This narrative doesn't acknowledge the reality of Kirk Cousins the player. I think if he was better than sure we would have had the leverage some are suggesting we had. But both teams understand what he is, and no one else was going to start a bidding war to drive up his price. It's not some slam dunk they even make it to the conference championship with him.

The Raiders could of easily drove the price up. Again, not upset with it, I just think we could of squeezed more out of a desperate team.

JRaider17 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:10 pm I think we would've gotten a 2nd if the Vikings didn't have to eat 10 million next year (which now we save).

Good point that 10 million is significant. Hmm, I’m not sure how I feel about this deal.

JRaider17 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:10 pm I think we would've gotten a 2nd if the Vikings didn't have to eat 10 million next year (which now we save).

No, we would not, no team would give up a 2nd round pick for a 38-year-old player

Minny has 2 3s, hopefully we got the higher one.

They get a 38 year old with a noodle of an arm. Two weeks ago, I would have been thrilled with a fourth. Today I am pumped with a third

BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:03 pm Not necessarily upset with the compensation BUT let's be honest, the Vikings had ZERO leverage. They were absolutely desperate. Glad it's Mendoza time but I dont think we got max value. But that's OK bc it's a win win.

Yes I thought we could’ve strong armed them a bit too but apparently they were also asking about Geno and Daniel jones so they may have had a budget and simply went elsewhere if we held out.

I would suspect this decision on our end has less to do with the trade package and more to do with staff feeling it’s time for Mendoza.

I have a hard time believing we intended to keep starting Kirk much longer… but were just too enticed by that sweet, sweet (late) 3rd round pick.

My guess is: Mendoza was starting one way or the other within the next couple weeks. For a 3rd round pick we’ll cement Seattle as the game it happens

BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:14 pm The Raiders could of easily drove the price up. Again, not upset with it, I just think we could of squeezed more out of a desperate team.

Yea I'm skeptical simply because of Kirk Cousins the player. 1-4 in the playoffs, even with that defense it's not a sure thing he can lead them to the promised land. But it's hard to say without being a fly on the wall, either way things are looking up.

NoThanksSir wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:11 pm This narrative doesn't acknowledge the reality of Kirk Cousins the player. I think if he was better than sure we would have had the leverage some are suggesting we had. But both teams understand what he is, and no one else was going to start a bidding war to drive up his price. It's not some slam dunk they even make it to the conference championship with him.

I don’t see it that way at all. Kirk Cousins is a really good qb and leader.

If we were in the Vikings position I would give up a 2nd. With Cousins the Vikings have a better team than our franchise has had since 2002.

I was hoping for a #1 and #2 for Maxxx which would of given the Raiders two #1s, Two #2s and two #3s.

LayneStaley wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:16 pm Minny has 2 3s, hopefully we got the higher one.

We did not, Vikings gave the Raiders their own pick and Vikings kept the other 3rd round pick from the Eagles trade which is the highest pick, it sucks but honestly, I do not blame them, I would not give the highest pick for a 38 year old quarterback

Steve007 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:21 pm I don’t see it that way at all. Kirk Cousins is a really good qb and leader.

If we were in the Vikings position I would give up a 2nd. With Cousins the Vikings have a better team than our franchise has had since 2002.

Really good QBs fail to live up to expectations all the time. I'm not saying he's bad, but you're assertion that he's going to win them a Superbowl is a stretch. I think that is what factored into his value. He's 1-4 in the playoffs, will be a 1 year rental, and Minnesota is going into the tough portion of their schedule. Giving up a 2nd for a guy like Cousins will get you fired.

This isn’t 1995. Qbs can play into their 40’s. Cousins joined the worst team in the league and played at a very high level. With an average defense this team could easily be 6-3 or 7-2.

Peyton Manning was complete garbage in his last year, had the worst noodle arm ever and won a ring with a great defense. His leadership was still valuable even though he could no longer play. Cousins can actually still play.

Steve007 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:25 pm This isn’t 1995. Qbs can play into their 40’s. Cousins joined the worst team in the league and played at a very high level. With an average defense this team could easily be 6-3 or 7-2.

Peyton Manning was complete garbage in his last year, had the worst noodle arm ever and won a ring with a great defense. His leadership was still valuable even though he could no longer play. Cousins can actually still play.

You just compared Kirk Cousins to one of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time lol.

NoThanksSir wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:23 pm Really good QBs fail to live up to expectations all the time. I'm not saying he's bad, but you're assertion that he's going to win them a Superbowl is a stretch. I think that is what factored into his value. He's 1-4 in the playoffs, will be a 1 year rental, and Minnesota is going into the tough portion of their schedule. Giving up a 2nd for a guy like Cousins will get you fired.

Giving up a 2nd round pick for a QB and winning the super bowl will get you a raise. And who's saying he's only a 1 year rental in Minnesota?

BoKnows81 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 1:28 pm Giving up a 2nd round pick for a QB and winning the super bowl will get you a raise.

I don't think they make it out of the first round with Cousins lol