He's back! Maxx Crosby merged superthread

[Corleone]

Tank is full speed ahead!

[raider_kin]

i agree 100 pct

raven d fell off a cliff last yr and i dont see it recovering much this yr
offense is on the downside, eventually king henry is gonna give, you cant get pounded like he does and not get hurt over time, same goes for lamar whom was never a great passer (avg ) it was always his legs that made him elite and now he is showing age and getting injured more n more

Plus Hendrickson is old and injured, I can't believe he will hold up. My guess is that the Raven fans will soon regret not having Maxx.

[mstrbass2000]

Plus Hendrickson is old and injured, I can't believe he will hold up. My guess is that the Raven fans will soon regret not having Maxx.

fired a true winning coach, replaced with rookie coach
lost an all pro center off of an oline that already had issues last yr

ravens are on the down slide for sure

[BoKnows81]

Plus Hendrickson is old and injured, I can't believe he will hold up. My guess is that the Raven fans will soon regret not having Maxx.

We won't know that for a couple years.

[Attyla]

We won't know that for a couple years.

yep, and saying the Ravens are on the downside is also questionable. Ozzie Newsome is a a great talent evaluator, not good, he his great. I don't count out the Ravens to pivot to be successful. They have proven that time and again.

[Opoponax50]

I get the whole tampering period = nothing is real thing… but it’s kind of getting to the point where you wonder how this doesn’t get investigated.

I mean the more info that comes out, the more it looks like Baltimore entered a trade agreement that they never intended to fulfil. At some point youd think there’s a distinction between changing your mind and bad faith negotiations.

The very basic elements of a contract are offer, acceptance, and consideration. In this case someone made an offer, the other party accepted, but there was no exchange by either side (consideration). In this case, a formal contract signed by both parties, then broken by Baltimore would warrant a suit for breach of contract, but no formal contract was signed by either. Therefore, reliance e.g. the Raiders seemingly making FA moves based on what they believed to be an imminent trade does not count as reliance because there was no signed, formalized contract to begin with.

[Xramfan]

The very basic elements of a contract are offer, acceptance, and consideration. In this case someone made an offer, the other party accepted, but there was no exchange by either side (consideration). In this case, a formal contract signed by both parties, then broken by Baltimore would warrant a suit for breach of contract, but no formal contract was signed by either. Therefore, reliance e.g. the Raiders seemingly making FA moves based on what they believed to be an imminent trade does not count as reliance because there was no signed, formalized contract to begin with.

I was going to say something like, "Both sides had a trade going but nothing was set in stone until signatures were on the dotted lines".

Then I read your response which is much more intelligent sounding so I changed my mind ;)

[GoodTimeCharlie]

"Initial offers centered on Dallas' second first-round pick at No. 20, and defensive tackle Osa Odighizuwa. The Cowboys then offered their top first-rounder at No. 12 and a third-round pick. Ultimately, the Cowboys moved to No. 12 and their second-round pick, but the last two offers, sources said, did not include Odighizuwa, who was traded to the San Francisco 49ers for a third-round selection,"

[GoodTimeCharlie]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/482 ... osby-trade

[raider_kin]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/482 ... osby-trade

We found out we COULD get Hendrickson at the price we wanted, without giving up picks.
And we're slimeballs

[GoodTimeCharlie]

We found out we COULD get Hendrickson at the price we wanted, without giving up picks.
And we're slimeballs

Yup. Does make me a bit angry/frustrated that we could have had Dallas’ 1st this year and 2nd next year, but then their team doctor became part of the whole Ravens fiasco.

Who knows, perhaps Dallas would have honored the transaction (if not slimeballs), or maybe Jerruh told the doctor to throw shade on the Ravens move to acquire Maxx because of sour grapes.

I don’t know. F’m all. Go Raiders.

[chucker]

I am shocked that teams were willing to offer that much for a guy who is months away from being healthy enough to go full speed. That's why I thought he wouldn't get traded, or at least not until much later in the offseason. I never wanted the Raiders to lower the asking price due to how much time he had left in recovery from surgery.

The next key date is the trade deadline, and I'm sure the chatter will ramp up well before that time unless the Raiders are quieting the critics and making a strong playoff push.

[rich72]

I am shocked that teams were willing to offer that much for a guy who is months away from being healthy enough to go full speed. That's why I thought he wouldn't get traded, or at least not until much later in the offseason. I never wanted the Raiders to lower the asking price due to how much time he had left in recovery from surgery.

The next key date is the trade deadline, and I'm sure the chatter will ramp up well before that time unless the Raiders are quieting the critics and making a strong playoff push.

I doubt we will get rid of him this season, that ship has sailed, maybe next season.

[16 to 88]

I get the whole tampering period = nothing is real thing… but it’s kind of getting to the point where you wonder how this doesn’t get investigated.

I mean the more info that comes out, the more it looks like Baltimore entered a trade agreement that they never intended to fulfil. At some point youd think there’s a distinction between changing your mind and bad faith negotiations.

Was all premeditated.

As I was telling another member on this board that they offered something way beyond whatever the best offer was on the table (Dallas offer) and we jumped on it. They had absolutely no intention of actually going through with it. Third time now they have pulled this stunt.

[Sold My Soul]

Get over it. Raiders got played.

Raiders still got Mad Maxx....

In what way does that suck?

[RaiderandBulldog]

"Initial offers centered on Dallas' second first-round pick at No. 20, and defensive tackle Osa Odighizuwa. The Cowboys then offered their top first-rounder at No. 12 and a third-round pick. Ultimately, the Cowboys moved to No. 12 and their second-round pick, but the last two offers, sources said, did not include Odighizuwa, who was traded to the San Francisco 49ers for a third-round selection,"

Why did we say no?