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Attyla wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:19 am So, assuming the tank is on, and again, I know it has been done before, especially in the NBA, who is involved in the tank? Ownership, you almost have to know that if it is being done it is with Davis's knowledge. GM? That is a given. Coaches? You don't do a tank without your head coach in your pocket. Frankly, the only one on that list that would not be in the know would be Davis simply because plausible deniability is in play.

Thoughts, if there is a tank, who is in on the job?

Attyla wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:19 am So, assuming the tank is on, and again, I know it has been done before, especially in the NBA, who is involved in the tank? Ownership, you almost have to know that if it is being done it is with Davis's knowledge. GM? That is a given. Coaches? You don't do a tank without your head coach in your pocket. Frankly, the only one on that list that would not be in the know would be Davis simply because plausible deniability is in play.

Thoughts, if there is a tank, who is in on the job?

Attyla wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:19 am So, assuming the tank is on, and again, I know it has been done before, especially in the NBA, who is involved in the tank? Ownership, you almost have to know that if it is being done it is with Davis's knowledge. GM? That is a given. Coaches? You don't do a tank without your head coach in your pocket. Frankly, the only one on that list that would not be in the know would be Davis simply because plausible deniability is in play.

Thoughts, if there is a tank, who is in on the job?

Attyla wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:42 am See, I don't see a world where Pete would not be in on it. If your players are being IR'd that is not enough. You need a coach willing to toss a few plays in there at critical times to make this work. Bowers being out is significant but it would not guarantee the losses. Chinn was good for us but not other world like.

I will just say that if we come out guns blazing and beat the Giants or the Chiefs or both, that the tank is not on. You could say they are protecting their assets but it would not be a tank unless we actually lose. If we lose both games then a case can be made. But that does require Pete or maybe someone else. Maybe they go to Olsen and tell him the OC job is his if he calls a shit game or they tell Graham he gets a new deal if his D goes south, but someone who is actually involved in the actual game would have to be in on it. And to be in on it, it has to be worth your while too. Because the risks are real in this thing if it is happening.

But I agree that Pete would never do such a thing.

Viper wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 11:47 am Not really. If you take away key players, although admittedly we have few, does that not then take away talent on any given play?
Our starters at most positions are borderline getting playing time on other teams. Our backups are mostly incompetent at best.

Attyla wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:10 pm Then they did not do enough. Jeanty being out there helps us a ton, Mayer out there is still a threat. Geno out there, that matters because he had a good game last week against a good defense. Crosby out there matters.

If you are doing a tank just subtracting players, there is no way in hell we just remove Chinn and Bowers and a couple throw in guys. You would have to empty out at the very least Geno and Jeanty, and you probably have to take out Crosby.

If that is the version of the "tank" I don't see a tank just with the moves we did unless someone who affects the play on the field is also tied in.

Opoponax50 wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:16 am He came back too soon to begin with. That's on both him and the coaching staff. He's a super competitive dude and likely told the staff he was fine.

mranquales wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 1:12 pm Crosby has technically been playing hurt anyway. Even though I don't think he impacts the game as much as fans like to think, no one would question sitting him as he's been listed as "limited" for several weeks.

Jeanty is a rookie so he will play. Geno Smith is garbage so him playing doesn't hurt us.

BoKnows81 wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:22 am What are we even talking about here? Sure, Brock wasnt healthy for a stretch but his first game back after missing those few fames he had 12 catches and 3 TDs. Dude was as close to 100% as you can get after missing those games. If you believe this current I.R. placement was purely due to him "not being healthy", you are just naive. Jeanty should be next, esp with how many touches he got in college.