Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[KennyPowers]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1031826]true, and people use the Washington game to explain away 12 games. utter bullshit, the line. Carr was sacked just 20 times all year, so yea, that was a line that protected him well.[/quote]It was the 12-4 team wasn't very good or deep. Fans felt the next year we would show improvement and with a healthy Carr we would make a Super Bowl run. When that didn't happen they assumed it was all Carr's injured ankle and Musgrave leaving..
It was a lot of things. The year before you don't have 7 or 8 game winning drives late in the 4th. They were extremely lucky. That doesn't happen. Good team don't need that many come from behind wins. We were also 2nd in the league in turnovers in 2016. 2017 turnovers cut in half.
So no late game heroics and no defensive turnovers means you have a below average team. It was just lucky the year before and not sustained success.
Then when Gruden came in everyone thought it was Del Rein's fault and Gruden was a winner and would get us back to that 12-4 team. But the roster still sucked and Gruden trade away Mack and Cooper. He had to do. it. We sucked with them and needed to start from scratch. When we didn't win in Gruden first year, then the hate came after Carr. It couldn't be Gruden and fans kept thinking that this was a 12-4 team, when it wasn't. It was actually the worst roster in the NFL.
It wasn't del rio, it wasn't Gruden, it want Carr. It was a shitty f[raiders_icon]cking team that fans were led to believe was a super bowl contender And those raider team were the furthest thing from a super bowl contender.

[Attyla]

[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1031829]Monster game from Lynch 18-76. Carr's 22-32-262 2Td's. It was all Lynch. This is exactly what I'm talking about over time. You hate Carr so much you can't admit when he had a good game.
I can care less who the Qb is, just want to win. This team is finally showing improvement from year to year. And fans aren't happy. Its almost like the would rather be 3-13 every year and be miserable. Because that is what the future looks like.[/quote]I did not say Carr did not have a good game, he did, but the story that day was Lynch. You obviously did not watch the game because the stat line is only part of the story.

Titans came out and on the first play pulled a bone head onside. We recovered and had a short field. Later on, rather than give the ball to Lynch on 1st and goal at the 1 we throw three corner routes to Cooper, 1 bounced off his hands, the other two were deflected. That was when we started giving the ball to Lynch who chewed up the clock giving their defense a lot of time on the field in brutal hot and humid, cloudless day.

Again, I was there. The story was Lynch.

Darren get over yourself, that line was a mother. 20 sacks on the year, other than Washington, he had all kinds of time to throw the ball.

[KennyPowers]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1031837]I did not say Carr did not have a good game, he did, but the story that day was Lynch. You obviously did not watch the game because the stat line is only part of the story.

Titans came out and on the first play pulled a bone head onside. We recovered and had a short field. Later on, rather than give the ball to Lynch on 1st and goal at the 1 we throw three corner routes to Cooper, 1 bounced off his hands, the other two were deflected. That was when we started giving the ball to Lynch who chewed up the clock giving their defense a lot of time on the field in brutal hot and humid, cloudless day.

Again, I was there. The story was Lynch.

Darren get over yourself, that line was a mother. 20 sacks on the year, other than Washington, he had all kinds of time to throw the ball.[/quote]I remember the Cooper drops. Carr fault again

[Attyla]

[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1031838]I remember the Cooper drops. Carr fault again[/quote]Cooper dropped one, the other two got defensive fingers on the ball, go watch the replay.

[Willmark]

[quote=signal post_id=1031757]It is frustrating arguing with someone who does not have knowledge. The only people stating that Carr is comparable to Gannon are those that have not seen Gannon play and cherry pick a stat or two. I don't know if it is a generational thing or what but I don't understand why people who are completely unfamiliar with a player feel like they have the wherewithal to make astute comparisons about that player. It appears a couple of stats are all they need to feel like they have all the evidence they need.[/quote]I’m waiting for he’s better than Stabler.

[KennyPowers]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1031839]Cooper dropped one, the other two got defensive fingers on the ball, go watch the replay.[/quote]Didn't Carr break his back in in week 4 or 5 that season. So the great offensive line that gave him all day to throw the ball over the past 6 games got Carr's ankle broken and got his back broken.

[KennyPowers]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1031839]Cooper dropped one, the other two got defensive fingers on the ball, go watch the replay.[/quote]Actually the first drive of the game Cooper caught a TD and fought from the 5 to score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH-FjGN ... JEzFRy3xk3

[Attyla]

[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1031845]Didn't Carr break his back in in week 4 or 5 that season. So the great offensive line that gave him all day to throw the ball over the past 6 games got Carr's ankle broken and got his back broken.[/quote]this is good stuff, so Carr broke his ankle on a sack which was given up by Penn, which was the ONLY sack Penn gave up all year.
And the play that resulted in a traverse process fracture was one of 20 sacks all season.

But keep trying, this shit is funny as hell.

-- Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:56 pm --

[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1031849]Actually the first drive of the game Cooper caught a TD and fought from the 5 to score.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH-FjGN ... JEzFRy3xk3[/quote]I did say later in the game. And yes, I was there, I saw the cooper TD

you like to move the goalposts a lot.

[KennyPowers]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1031851]this is good stuff, so Carr broke his ankle on a sack which was given up by Penn, which was the ONLY sack Penn gave up all year.
And the play that resulted in a traverse process fracture was one of 20 sacks all season.

But keep trying, this shit is funny as hell.

-- Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:56 pm --

I did say later in the game. And yes, I was there, I saw the cooper TD

you like to move the goalposts a lot.[/quote]Trying what? Just pointing out the fact that two sacks were giving up one ending the season with a serious injury and the other was an injury that should have ended his season.

[Raidernation1979]

[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1031856]Trying what? Just pointing out the fact that two sacks were giving up one ending the season with a serious injury and the other was an injury that should have ended his season.[/quote]Neither injury was serious. If he had the ankle in game 2 he would have played again that season.

[Attyla]

[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1031856]Trying what? Just pointing out the fact that two sacks were giving up one ending the season with a serious injury and the other was an injury that should have ended his season.[/quote]oh my god, you are reaching. The back injury was the most mild version of that break there is. There was no way that back injury should have ended his season. Do some homework before you post that shit.

the other was a fluke injury. His lines those two years were considered top 5 and graded out just like that.

give me a break.

[RaiderandBulldog]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_lqn02ZSV80

[KennyPowers]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1031863]oh my god, you are reaching. The back injury was the most mild version of that break there is. There was no way that back injury should have ended his season. Do some homework before you post that shit.

the other was a fluke injury. His lines those two years were considered top 5 and graded out just like that.

give me a break.[/quote]Did that same injury not end Tony Romo's career. Yes Romo was older and at the end of his career. But he never played again. Did the same injury end Matt Stoffords season in week 8 in 2019

[Raidernation1979]

[quote=KennyPowers post_id=1031867]Did that same injury not end Tony Romo's career. Yes Romo was older and at the end of his career. But he never played again. Did the same injury end Matt Stoffords season in week 8 in 2019[/quote]The answer is no it didn’t end romos career. May have been Chucker on here that posted about that. Romo at one point did have that injury and missed a game

[Xramfan]

[quote=Willmark post_id=1031844]I’m waiting for he’s better than Stabler.[/quote]Sic bastid ;)