Game day thread: Browns@Raiders

[RunOverByHubbard]

Oh yeah- there’s a game today. I almost forgot. Unfortunately I think we lower our draft picks and win one in a squeaker. Gino will have his best game since game #1. Yes a contrarian feeling. I think we might see a rookie offensive lineman or two play also. What can that hurt at this point? Raider 20 Browns 17.

I am playing golf so will check it out when I get home.

[GoodTimeCharlie]

Exactly, that hierarchy was broken when Mark stepped in and began hiring the HC, which gave the HC more power than the GM in personnel decisions. Mayock? Telesco - AP, I would think Telesco had more power over the draft due to AP's lack of any experience, but that was 1 year. In the least AP was willing to play the top 3 picks.

Mayock I have the most sympathy for. He was a dude that had a decent hit-rate on ranking guys for a sports publication. Mark and Gru destroyed his life.

[mranquales]

Show me where I claimed they would win. I said I want a win. I said we should win. I never said we would win.

Semantics. I claimed we would lose. You claimed the opposite of my stance. You were wrong.

Judkins got two scores. He may not have gotten a ton of yards but he got the ugly yards they needed.

Jeanty got ugly yards and scored. Doesn't change the facts. One of Judkins touchdowns is because Isiah Bonds fell down at the one-yard line.

And Sanders may not even start in two weeks.

And you'd be wrong. Again.

Saying shit like he will start the rest of the year based on yesterday? fck that noise.

He threw triple the air yards per pass of any Browns QB this season. Completed one of the longest passes of the season for the Browns. First rookie QB in 20 years to win for the Browns. If not for Jeudy showboating and Bond slipping, he potentially has 3 TDs.

And you said it would establish him as their FRANCHISE QB.

It did. He won the game.

A rookie who had zero reps all year was able to win his first start with only one week of prep. Despite that, he got his team into the redzone 4 times with his arm, was poised in the pocket, didn't yell at his teammates when he made a mistake, and had the entire team rallying behind him and playing with fire.

Myles Garrett's energy when Sanders is the QB is day and night different compared to win Gabriel is out there.

[Attyla]

Semantics. I claimed we would lose. You claimed the opposite of my stance. You were wrong.



Jeanty got ugly yards and scored. Doesn't change the facts. One of Judkins touchdowns is because Isiah Bonds fell down at the one-yard line.




And you'd be wrong. Again.



He threw triple the air yards per pass of any Browns QB this season. Completed one of the longest passes of the season for the Browns. First rookie QB in 20 years to win for the Browns. If not for Jeudy showboating and Bond slipping, he potentially has 3 TDs.



It did. He won the game.

A rookie who had zero reps all year was able to win his first start with only one week of prep. Despite that, he got his team into the redzone 4 times with his arm, was poised in the pocket, didn't yell at his teammates when he made a mistake, and had the entire team rallying behind him and playing with fire.

Myles Garrett's energy when Sanders is the QB is day and night different compared to win Gabriel is out there.

No, not semantics. Facts
Judkins was a decisive part of their game, which was to keep Sanders from f[raiders_icon]cking things up. Again facts
And no, I said he may not start in two weeks. Not will not. Again facts
And no, he threw a pass to the sidelines, the receiver got the yards. Again facts
And you site potential, I state facts. Potential means dick
And no, he is not a "franchise" QB after one start throwing 50% completion rate. Again, facts

Your opinion does not measure up to facts. You lost simply be getting up this morning. The rest was just too easy.

[mranquales]

No, not semantics. Facts

Almost everything you state is semantics.

Judkins was a decisive part of their game

As is every starting running back in the NFL. If you are talking about a "run-first" offensive philosophy, every team that doesn't have an elite QB does that. Even Josh Allen was carried by his run game and special teams last week.

to keep Sanders from fcking things up. Again facts

Wrong. They had the same offensive approach when Dillian Gabriel and Joe Flacco were starting. FACTS.

And no, I said he may not start in two weeks. Not will not. Again facts

Semantics. He is, so it doesn't matter what you meant. You're wrong. As usual.

And no, he threw a pass to the sidelines, the receiver got the yards. Again facts

He also threw a bomb off his back foot while avoiding a sack that was one yard away from being a TD. Facts. He also would have been in the redzone again after another major pass play to Jeudy. Facts.

Receivers sold Sanders just as much as they helped him. Facts.

And you site potential, I state facts. Potential means dick

All that matters is winning. FACTS. He won the game. FACTS. That makes him undefeated as a starter. FACTS. That makes him better than the other QB that's not undefeated. FACTS.

And no, he is not a "franchise" QB after one start throwing 50% completion rate. Again, facts

He is the "franchise QB" because he's the best QB on the team. FACTS. And no QB is good enough to dethrone him. FACTS.

Your opinion does not measure up to facts. You lost simply be getting up this morning. The rest was just too easy.

Thank you for continuing to expose yourself as a biased and prejudiced debater, thereby ruining your credibility and the weight behind your words.

Especially considering that I am considered a top-level contributor in several other football and Raider related ventures. Nothing you guys do on here bothers me one bit. So, stick to the topic and continue to get destroyed.

[Attyla]

you really are a joke. Stating someone is the "best" on a team is an opinion. I get it that you don't understand basic English but it is an opinion.
And no, the spoon fed Sanders a vanilla playbook so he would not f[raiders_icon]ck things up and he still only hit 50% of his passes and that f[raiders_icon]cking stinker of an INT
So when you finally figure out what a fact is vs an opinion, get back to me junior

[DanKD]

Are you really arguing Sanders is a franchise qb with a poor game that beat a crap raiders team? I guess he will be going into the hall of fame next to Nick Mullens

[BoKnows81]

you really are a joke. Stating someone is the "best" on a team is an opinion. I get it that you don't understand basic English but it is an opinion.
And no, the spoon fed Sanders a vanilla playbook so he would not fck things up and he still only hit 50% of his passes and that fcking stinker of an INT
So when you finally figure out what a fact is vs an opinion, get back to me junior

This is the same dude that wants Hendon Hooker. Don't waste your finger strength on him.

[DanKD]

This is the same dude that wants Hendon Hooker. Don't waste your finger strength on him.

He got confused, he meant Handy from a Hooker

[mranquales]

"You are what your record says you are."

-Bill Parcels

Shaduer Sanders right now is the best QB on the Browns. FACTS.

Thanks for playing!

[Attyla]

Jesus, one f[raiders_icon]cking game.

You may be playing, but I think the deck is shorted about half its cards

[Willmark]

This is the same dude that wants Hendon Hooker. Don't waste your finger strength on him.

And didnt even know which Team Hooker was on.

[ALLRAIDERWORLD21]

I don't expect this crew to be here Kin. None of them. Except Spytek.

After this shitshow, everyone but Spytek needs to go and I mean

[SuperRaider]

Definitely would have used a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder on drafting Sander;

First time Sander played a full game and Raiders do have a fairly decent defense and did ok….

[BoKnows81]

Definitely would have used a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder on drafting Sander;

First time Sander played a full game and Raiders do have a fairly decent defense and did ok….

LMAO

[Hellbound]

Definitely would have used a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder on drafting Sander;

First time Sander played a full game and Raiders do have a fairly decent defense and did ok….

Sanders f[raiders_icon]cking sucks and so does this sorry ass Raider team including the defense