Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1030023]Another two interceptions.
3 and 0 now with our QB throwing 4 interceptions and fumbling twice. The team is carrying him.
Carr is terrible in games that matter. Dalton 100%.[/quote]You have to be pissed with another win. 1 more and you are throwing a shoe through your TV. I have to tip my hat to you though. Even when you are 100% wrong you keep on digging faster and faster hoping to dig yourself out of that hole. Keep on digging it's quite a show
3 and 0 now with our QB throwing 4 interceptions and fumbling twice. The team is carrying him.
Carr is terrible in games that matter. Dalton 100%.[/quote]You have to be pissed with another win. 1 more and you are throwing a shoe through your TV. I have to tip my hat to you though. Even when you are 100% wrong you keep on digging faster and faster hoping to dig yourself out of that hole. Keep on digging it's quite a show
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1030033]You have to be pissed with another win. 1 more and you are throwing a shoe through your TV. I have to tip my hat to you though. Even when you are 100% wrong you keep on digging faster and faster hoping to dig yourself out of that hole. Keep on digging it's quite a show[/quote]What are you even talking about?
The team has played well, yes. Carr has not - just as I predicted. Exactly as Dalton did in his big games. This is 'playoff' Carr and it is throwaway football.
4 interceptions and 2 fumbles in 3 'must win' games. That is terrible. So that makes me... wait for it... 100% correct.
That and we won - knocking on the playoffs. Hell, I am thrilled. My best case (and this team's best case) involves no Carr on this team and a quicker reload - both things got a little closer to reality tonight.
* Please try to spin 4 interceptions and 2 fumbles into something good. I would love to see it. The team won in spite of Carr, not because of him. Try watching the games.
The team has played well, yes. Carr has not - just as I predicted. Exactly as Dalton did in his big games. This is 'playoff' Carr and it is throwaway football.
4 interceptions and 2 fumbles in 3 'must win' games. That is terrible. So that makes me... wait for it... 100% correct.
That and we won - knocking on the playoffs. Hell, I am thrilled. My best case (and this team's best case) involves no Carr on this team and a quicker reload - both things got a little closer to reality tonight.
* Please try to spin 4 interceptions and 2 fumbles into something good. I would love to see it. The team won in spite of Carr, not because of him. Try watching the games.
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1030041]What are you even talking about?
The team has played well, yes. Carr has not - just as I predicted. Exactly as Dalton did in his big games. This is 'playoff' Carr and it is throwaway football.
4 interceptions and 2 fumbles in 3 'must win' games. That is terrible. So that makes me... wait for it... 100% correct.
That and we won - knocking on the playoffs. Hell, I am thrilled.
* Please try to spin 4 interceptions and 2 fumbles into something good. I would love to see it. The team won in spite of Carr, not because of him. Try watching the games.[/quote]Watch every minute of every game. I have never been a fan of Carr. Nothing to spin. 2 weeks 2 wins. Came from behind in the clutch moments. Just win baby. Anyone who can pull a negative from that is just wanting a loss. Keep digging faster you will get there
The team has played well, yes. Carr has not - just as I predicted. Exactly as Dalton did in his big games. This is 'playoff' Carr and it is throwaway football.
4 interceptions and 2 fumbles in 3 'must win' games. That is terrible. So that makes me... wait for it... 100% correct.
That and we won - knocking on the playoffs. Hell, I am thrilled.
* Please try to spin 4 interceptions and 2 fumbles into something good. I would love to see it. The team won in spite of Carr, not because of him. Try watching the games.[/quote]Watch every minute of every game. I have never been a fan of Carr. Nothing to spin. 2 weeks 2 wins. Came from behind in the clutch moments. Just win baby. Anyone who can pull a negative from that is just wanting a loss. Keep digging faster you will get there
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1030095]Watch every minute of every game. I have never been a fan of Carr. Nothing to spin. 2 weeks 2 wins. Came from behind in the clutch moments. Just win baby. Anyone who can pull a negative from that is just wanting a loss. Keep digging faster you will get there [/quote]Pull a negative? I already said this is win win for me. Carr is playing turd level football and we are winning regardless. You have seen playoff Carr (must win games) - he needs to go - so him playing turd games so the new coach knows he is a lost cause is better for this franchise.
Maybe we would not need to be so clutch if Carr would stop turning the ball over? Maybe we could have won without a last minute victory?
Yeah - that is exactly my point. Try to keep up. I don't cheer for the guy throwing 2 interceptions in a must win game. I call him out.
* The team won't always be able to make up for 2 turnovers.... fortunately tonight they did. Renfrow saved our ass - not Carr. The defense saved our ass - not Carr.
Carr damn near killed us.
[/quote]Pull a negative? I already said this is win win for me. Carr is playing turd level football and we are winning regardless. You have seen playoff Carr (must win games) - he needs to go - so him playing turd games so the new coach knows he is a lost cause is better for this franchise.Maybe we would not need to be so clutch if Carr would stop turning the ball over? Maybe we could have won without a last minute victory?
Yeah - that is exactly my point. Try to keep up. I don't cheer for the guy throwing 2 interceptions in a must win game. I call him out.
* The team won't always be able to make up for 2 turnovers.... fortunately tonight they did. Renfrow saved our ass - not Carr. The defense saved our ass - not Carr.
Carr damn near killed us.
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1030100]Pull a negative? I already said this is win win for me. Carr is playing turd level football and we are winning regardless.
Maybe we would not need to be so clutch if Carr would stop turning the ball over? Maybe we could have won without a last minute victory?
Yeah - that is exactly my point. Try to keep up. I don't cheer for the guy throwing 2 interceptions in a must win game. I call him out.[/quote]Ok you enjoy your negativity and I will enjoy the win. If we only gave up our entire draft for Haskins as you screamed for we wouldn't have to have these stupid playoff arguments. We could be sitting on 3 wins and you could be telling us how it isn't his fault
Maybe we would not need to be so clutch if Carr would stop turning the ball over? Maybe we could have won without a last minute victory?
Yeah - that is exactly my point. Try to keep up. I don't cheer for the guy throwing 2 interceptions in a must win game. I call him out.[/quote]Ok you enjoy your negativity and I will enjoy the win. If we only gave up our entire draft for Haskins as you screamed for we wouldn't have to have these stupid playoff arguments. We could be sitting on 3 wins and you could be telling us how it isn't his fault
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1030041]What are you even talking about?
The team has played well, yes. Carr has not - just as I predicted. Exactly as Dalton did in his big games. This is 'playoff' Carr and it is throwaway football.
4 interceptions and 2 fumbles in 3 'must win' games. That is terrible. So that makes me... wait for it... 100% correct.
That and we won - knocking on the playoffs. Hell, I am thrilled. My best case (and this team's best case) involves no Carr on this team and a quicker reload - both things got a little closer to reality tonight.
* Please try to spin 4 interceptions and 2 fumbles into something good. I would love to see it. The team won in spite of Carr, not because of him. Try watching the games.[/quote]Exactly. The team is carrying Carr.
I think people see Carr make a good play here and there and then believe that he's exceptional. But all starting QBs make good plays. That's why they're in the NFL. The issue is how often they make good plays. Carr doesn't make them often enough.
Right now, Carr isn't even playing the role of a conservative game manager who takes advantage of what the defense gives him and limits mistakes. This season he's thrown just 21 TD passes while in our division two other QBs have thrown 35. And for every 3 TDs he throws, he throws 2 interceptions. Lucky for us that our D is largely able to keep Carr's mistakes to a minimum (e.g. today the Colts got 0 points off Carr's turnovers).
For what Carr costs, we can find another QB to do the same thing for less than half the price.
The team has played well, yes. Carr has not - just as I predicted. Exactly as Dalton did in his big games. This is 'playoff' Carr and it is throwaway football.
4 interceptions and 2 fumbles in 3 'must win' games. That is terrible. So that makes me... wait for it... 100% correct.
That and we won - knocking on the playoffs. Hell, I am thrilled. My best case (and this team's best case) involves no Carr on this team and a quicker reload - both things got a little closer to reality tonight.
* Please try to spin 4 interceptions and 2 fumbles into something good. I would love to see it. The team won in spite of Carr, not because of him. Try watching the games.[/quote]Exactly. The team is carrying Carr.
I think people see Carr make a good play here and there and then believe that he's exceptional. But all starting QBs make good plays. That's why they're in the NFL. The issue is how often they make good plays. Carr doesn't make them often enough.
Right now, Carr isn't even playing the role of a conservative game manager who takes advantage of what the defense gives him and limits mistakes. This season he's thrown just 21 TD passes while in our division two other QBs have thrown 35. And for every 3 TDs he throws, he throws 2 interceptions. Lucky for us that our D is largely able to keep Carr's mistakes to a minimum (e.g. today the Colts got 0 points off Carr's turnovers).
For what Carr costs, we can find another QB to do the same thing for less than half the price.
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1030103]Ok you enjoy your negativity and I will enjoy the win. If we only gave up our entire draft for Haskins as you screamed for we wouldn't have to have these stupid playoff arguments. We could be sitting on 3 wins and you could be telling us how it isn't his fault[/quote]We would be on to the next guy champ. Maybe Herbert.
Either or, Carr ain't it.
We will NEVER win anything with him. This is playoff Carr and he is trash. 4 interceptions and 2 fumbles, the hell you thinkin?
Either or, Carr ain't it.
We will NEVER win anything with him. This is playoff Carr and he is trash. 4 interceptions and 2 fumbles, the hell you thinkin?
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1030100]Pull a negative? I already said this is win win for me. Carr is playing turd level football and we are winning regardless.
Maybe we would not need to be so clutch if Carr would stop turning the ball over? Maybe we could have won without a last minute victory?
Yeah - that is exactly my point. Try to keep up. I don't cheer for the guy throwing 2 interceptions in a must win game. I call him out.
The team won't always be able to make up for 2 turnovers.... fortunately tonight they did. Renfrow saved our ass - not Carr.[/quote]Oh come on....
Yes Carr played like ass....but Renfrow doesnt make the catch without Carr throwing it. To say Renfrow saved our ass is just petty. Dont get me wrong...Renfrow is my favorite player on the team.....but to say his catch saved our ass makes zero sense. If he ran back a kickoff...ok. If he had a punt return that got us into FG range....sure. But because he made a catch he saved our ass.....there is no way you actually believe that....
Maybe we would not need to be so clutch if Carr would stop turning the ball over? Maybe we could have won without a last minute victory?
Yeah - that is exactly my point. Try to keep up. I don't cheer for the guy throwing 2 interceptions in a must win game. I call him out.
The team won't always be able to make up for 2 turnovers.... fortunately tonight they did. Renfrow saved our ass - not Carr.[/quote]Oh come on....
Yes Carr played like ass....but Renfrow doesnt make the catch without Carr throwing it. To say Renfrow saved our ass is just petty. Dont get me wrong...Renfrow is my favorite player on the team.....but to say his catch saved our ass makes zero sense. If he ran back a kickoff...ok. If he had a punt return that got us into FG range....sure. But because he made a catch he saved our ass.....there is no way you actually believe that....
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1030105]We would be on to the next guy champ. Maybe Herbert.
Either or, Carr ain't it.[/quote]Never said he was. Never was a fan. I guess I find it hard to be a whiney bitch after a win that keeps our playoff hopes alive in January. But you be you
Either or, Carr ain't it.[/quote]Never said he was. Never was a fan. I guess I find it hard to be a whiney bitch after a win that keeps our playoff hopes alive in January. But you be you
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[quote=grosse gurke post_id=1030106]Oh come on....
Yes Carr played like ass....but Renfrow doesnt make the catch without Carr throwing it. To say Renfrow saved our ass is just petty. Dont get me wrong...Renfrow is my favorite player on the team.....but to say his catch saved our ass makes zero sense. If he ran back a kickoff...ok. If he had a punt return that got us into FG range....sure. But because he made a catch he saved our ass.....there is no way you actually believe that....[/quote]Because he absolutely torched his defender and broke his ankles?
Carr lobbed a pass any NFL QB can make. Renfrow ran a route only Renfrow can.
That is what happened.
Yes Carr played like ass....but Renfrow doesnt make the catch without Carr throwing it. To say Renfrow saved our ass is just petty. Dont get me wrong...Renfrow is my favorite player on the team.....but to say his catch saved our ass makes zero sense. If he ran back a kickoff...ok. If he had a punt return that got us into FG range....sure. But because he made a catch he saved our ass.....there is no way you actually believe that....[/quote]Because he absolutely torched his defender and broke his ankles?
Carr lobbed a pass any NFL QB can make. Renfrow ran a route only Renfrow can.
That is what happened.
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1030107]Never said he was. Never was a fan. I guess I find it hard to be a whiney bitch after a win that keeps our playoff hopes alive in January. But you be you[/quote]This is a thread specifically dedicated to discussing Derek Carr. Therefore, Derek Carr's play is what gets discussed.
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[quote=FLORIDARAYDAH post_id=1030107]Never said he was. Never was a fan. I guess I find it hard to be a whiney bitch after a win that keeps our playoff hopes alive in January. But you be you[/quote]It is spelled whiny.
Keep gargling those digits pal.
Keep gargling those digits pal.
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[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1030104]Exactly. The team is carrying Carr.
I think people see Carr make a good play here and there and then believe that he's exceptional. But all starting QBs make good plays. That's why they're in the NFL. The issue is how often they make good plays. Carr doesn't make them often enough.
Right now, Carr isn't even playing the role of a conservative game manager who takes advantage of what the defense gives him and limits mistakes. This season he's thrown just 21 TD passes while in our division two other QBs have thrown 35. And for every 3 TDs he throws, he throws 2 interceptions. Lucky for us that our D is largely able to keep Carr's mistakes to a minimum (e.g. today the Colts got 0 points off Carr's turnovers).
For what Carr costs, we can find another QB to do the same thing for less than half the price.[/quote]How exactly is the 26th ranked defense in opponent scoring carrying the team?
I think people see Carr make a good play here and there and then believe that he's exceptional. But all starting QBs make good plays. That's why they're in the NFL. The issue is how often they make good plays. Carr doesn't make them often enough.
Right now, Carr isn't even playing the role of a conservative game manager who takes advantage of what the defense gives him and limits mistakes. This season he's thrown just 21 TD passes while in our division two other QBs have thrown 35. And for every 3 TDs he throws, he throws 2 interceptions. Lucky for us that our D is largely able to keep Carr's mistakes to a minimum (e.g. today the Colts got 0 points off Carr's turnovers).
For what Carr costs, we can find another QB to do the same thing for less than half the price.[/quote]How exactly is the 26th ranked defense in opponent scoring carrying the team?
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1030108]Because he absolutely torched his defender and broke his ankles?
Carr lobbed a pass any NFL QB can make. Renfrow ran a route only Renfrow can.
That is what happened.[/quote]Oh...ok. I guess this only applies to Carr. Not qb's with all pro receivers who destroy defenses. Good to know.
Carr lobbed a pass any NFL QB can make. Renfrow ran a route only Renfrow can.
That is what happened.[/quote]Oh...ok. I guess this only applies to Carr. Not qb's with all pro receivers who destroy defenses. Good to know.
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[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1030109]This is a thread specifically dedicated to discussing Derek Carr. Therefore, Derek Carr's play is what gets discussed.[/quote]Agree. Carr led another comeback. We won. We are still in the playoff hunt with one week to go in January. Just won baby! I'm not a big Carr supporter and never have been but I will enjoy a come from behind win against a playoff team on the road in a win or go home game