Kirk Cousins

[Reno Hightower]

I have rarely seen a QB do more with less. Kubiak has made it clear that he is the guy this year but his play has really defied conventional wisdom. The run blocking is as putrid as it was last season. The pass blocking has been getting compliments but how much as that has to do with Cousins's pocket presence and pre snap reads?

I am not sure the subject deserves its own thread but I think what he has accomplished this season cannot be overstated and he has essentially put the offense on his back. I don't think anyone saw this coming.

Thoughts?...

[Xramfan]

The point in all this is sitting isn’t the end of the world like it’s being made out here.

The same people screaming for him to “take his lumps” will be the first to say shout bust if he doesn’t work out.

All of this is compounded by the Raiders failing to address the QB position for decades. There is an immense amount of pressure to get it right on a single throw of the dice as it were. I suspect the organization is keenly aware of that and are doing everything possible to make sure he succeeds rather than being a bust.

Of course should he play lights out from the beginning we’re going to hear “we could have gone to the Super Bowl had he started game one!”

:rolleyes:

I suspect you’re correct that some fans will react that way. Fans are fanatics after all.

If he plays today, he will throw pics and make rookie mistakes.

If he sits on the bench and plays next year, he will throw pics and make rookie mistakes.

That’s my entire point…….sitting and watching is beneficial but there is a point where he has to take his lumps in live game action. Many things can’t be taught on the sidelines that one can only learn wearing your big boy pants.

There is no extra pressure since we are not looking at a post season run. Let the lad learn all he can now so that next year, presumably with more talent than today, maybe a post season run is possible.

Kirk has been great and I have a great deal of respect for him, but he isn’t in the picture regarding the future unless he becomes a coach.

[Willmark]

If a first overall pick in the draft does not work out, isn't that the very definition of bust?

Yes hence why they are doing whatever the need to, to prevent that from happening

[Attyla]

I suspect you’re correct that some fans will react that way. Fans are fanatics after all.

If he plays today, he will throw pics and make rookie mistakes.

If he sits on the bench and plays next year, he will throw pics and make rookie mistakes.

That’s my entire point…….sitting and watching is beneficial but there is a point where he has to take his lumps in live game action. Many things can’t be taught on the sidelines that one can only learn wearing your big boy pants.

There is no extra pressure since we are not looking at a post season run. Let the lad learn all he can now so that next year, presumably with more talent than today, maybe a post season run is possible.

Kirk has been great and I have a great deal of respect for him, but he isn’t in the picture regarding the future unless he becomes a coach.

And his next action needs to be a start, not garbage time. He is a competitor. He deserves a chance at winning, not not losing.

[Willmark]

His time is coming, I'm not sure why people don't see that other than impatience.

[BoKnows81]

His time is coming, I'm not sure why people don't see that other than impatience.

Maybe. But not giving him reps when these games are out of reach is completely unacceptable.

[GoodTimeCharlie]

Maybe. But not giving him reps when these games are out of reach is completely unacceptable.

That’s the one that bothers me a bit. (Though not for a moment do I think I know better) It seems the perfect time to get Mendo some run.

Let him have a few against a tired D that’s just lookin’ to get to the locker room, celebrate the victory, and call it a day.

I just can’t really come up with any strong reasons not to do that. But then, I don’t know their plan.

[Xramfan]

His time is coming, I'm not sure why people don't see that other than impatience.

I’m good with whatever KK has in mind and will trust the process but the topic is certainly worthy of discussion. Hearing Mannings take sounded very reasonable to me in that there is only a finite amount of learning to be had watching.

I’m not pretending to know more than Kubiak by any stretch but I also respect what a Manning might have to say as well.

Just fun discussion to pass the time. And yes, I’m eager to open the present under the tree

[powski]

I like the wide range of guesses about how much the max is the Raiders could get in a Cousins trade. And the lower it is the more certain the poster is thats the absolute most he'd go for. Hilarious.

[Rainman56]

Cousins isn't worth $hit....No non playoff team is giving up anything and Cousins isn't making a difference on a team hoping to make some noise in the playoffs...He couldn't do $hit in his prime on good teams let alone where he is at at this point in his career...Playoff record of 1-4 lol

[Xramfan]

Cousins isn't worth $hit....No non playoff team is giving up anything and Cousins isn't making a difference on a team hoping to make some noise in the playoffs...He couldn't do $hit in his prime on good teams let alone where he is at at this point in his career...Playoff record of 1-4 lol

As a used car salesman once told me regarding high prices for shitty cars,”All it takes is the right buyer”

[chucker]

As a used car salesman once told me regarding high prices for shitty cars,”All it takes is the right buyer”

The Vikings are the only potential buyer IMO. If Carson Wentz shits the bed tonight then they could be calling Spytek after the game.

[BoKnows81]

Listen, if Klint aint even taking Cousins out of games that are out of reach, he aint trading him.

I can't figure for the life of me why people are more focused on moving Cousins over Maxx.

[Rainman56]

As a used car salesman once told me regarding high prices for shitty cars,”All it takes is the right buyer”

Sic bastard lol

[Attyla]

Cousins isn't worth $hit....No non playoff team is giving up anything and Cousins isn't making a difference on a team hoping to make some noise in the playoffs...He couldn't do $hit in his prime on good teams let alone where he is at at this point in his career...Playoff record of 1-4 lol

We would not be shopping him to a non playoff team

[GoodTimeCharlie]

Listen, if Klint aint even taking Cousins out of games that are out of reach, he aint trading him.

I can't figure for the life of me why people are more focused on moving Cousins over Maxx.

Cause there’s “new hotness” waiting in the wings with a Cousins trade.