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chucker wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 6:30 am The moronic trade idea of essentially trading the value of 5+ first rounders for an oft-injured player whose running superpower is on the decline, Lamar Jackson, raises the question of what individual NFL player you would trade the 2025 first overall pick for. This isn't a real situation, just a thought experiment.

No throw-ins - no additional picks or players from either side. Contract situation is part of the question - player for pick and player has to be paid as per his contract or expected contract.

I might just have Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, Maye and that's it. And age and injuries mean it isn't as clear as you might think in favor of some of those guys.

Daniels gets injured a lot. Williams is spectacular and still frustrating at other times - I still don't know if he'll be great or spectacularly inconsistent. Both of those young guys will be looking for new contracts in a year too. Stafford is near retirement. Herbert is smaller in bigger moments. Jackson gets injured too much and will be looking for a massive new contract.

There are not any non-QBs I would consider.

Maybe I'm missing someone. Probably a lot of people don't give a shit..... again it's just a thought experiment.

Jmarti76 wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 8:34 am I think I love him even more now!

Nor_Cal_Raider wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 7:53 am I hope in 4 years we are trying to get him to sign a Mahomes type of deal

Willmark wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 8:10 am I think everyone is who is a Raiders fan is hoping for that. A still substantial contingent who were first and foremost fans and still are of a previous QB?

Let’s just say I have my doubts.

raider_kin wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 8:25 am Having the 1st pick, and it's going to be a QB got me to thinking back to Jabustus (yeah I know, chase THAT thought right out). Was there any doubt about him then, anybody questioning that pick? I truly can't remember. I know Kiffin wanted Megatron, but I can't remember if anyone pointed out warning signs (I think it was a low point in my Raider fandom, and/or memory fades)

Attyla wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 7:40 am Fernando has a better arm than Smith. He is a Burrow type arm. Lawrence has a great arm, but Mendoza has a better head on his shoulders. Out of that group, obviously, Luck is the crown jewel. If Mendoza can get to 80% Luck taken level we got something. He just needs blocking. As has been stated, we really don't know how good or bad our linemen are because of the shit coaching. But I am confident Spytek is going to be aggressive when it comes to protection for Mendoza and Jeanty.

But you all need to remember we have two above average blocking TEs as well. I know you all want Bowers in coverage but the chip release that Bowers already has in his arsenal is very effective.

CWood24 wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 8:31 am I see more Matt Ryan in him but of those mentioned i see an Smith floor, Goff middle & Luck ceiling if he is good, i dont want to think of any other outcome.

When you look at how Kubiak likes to line up he does like an H-Back in the backfield so i could see us using Bowers & Mayer in that role but i do think we’ll pick up someone whether through the draft or FA that will be that guy,

Seen some discussion about Mendoza being THE 4th best QB prospect in the last 4 years with only Maye, Williams & Daniels being better prospect coming out & i kind of agree

Just think this time last year people we saying we should trade our 1st for JJ McCarthy which has really aged well

raider_kin wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 8:25 am Having the 1st pick, and it's going to be a QB got me to thinking back to Jabustus (yeah I know, chase THAT thought right out). Was there any doubt about him then, anybody questioning that pick? I truly can't remember. I know Kiffin wanted Megatron, but I can't remember if anyone pointed out warning signs (I think it was a low point in my Raider fandom, and/or memory fades)

raider_kin wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 8:25 am Having the 1st pick, and it's going to be a QB got me to thinking back to Jabustus (yeah I know, chase THAT thought right out). Was there any doubt about him then, anybody questioning that pick? I truly can't remember. I know Kiffin wanted Megatron, but I can't remember if anyone pointed out warning signs (I think it was a low point in my Raider fandom, and/or memory fades)