Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Raiderfanrich]

Playoff team with Carr? Gimme a break. Jeez.

[Attyla]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1186120]Are we allowed to say the obvious yet and accept that if we kept Carr this would be a playoff team?[/quote]https://www.fanatics.com/nfl/las-vegas- ... gLD1_D_BwE

They are on clearance right now.

[GoodTimeCharlie]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1186128]https://www.fanatics.com/nfl/las-vegas- ... gLD1_D_BwE

They are on clearance right now.[/quote]Toobscruiser gets a hold of that and that #4 is gonna be stiff as a board by next weekend.

[Attyla]

[quote=GoodTimeCharlie post_id=1186129]Toobscruiser gets a hold of that and that #4 is gonna be stiff as a board by next weekend.[/quote]his logic is so flawed.

[Be_Easy_25]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1186120]Are we allowed to say the obvious yet and accept that if we kept Carr this would be a playoff team?[/quote]Not sure that’s true…

But I’ll say, Carr is a better QB than McDaniels is a HC.

[Attyla]

Are we allowed to say the obvious yet and accept that if we kept Carr this would be a playoff team?

First, putting this where it belongs. Second, are you f[raiders_icon]cking kidding me? He has exactly the same number of wins as we do with a better defense.

And with all of that, he is averaging just 20 yards more than Jimmy. He has 3 more TD's than Jimmy having played 4 more games. I mean seriously, your passive aggressive "can we say.....yet" is annoying as hell.

[352Raider]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1186120]Are we allowed to say the obvious yet and accept that if we kept Carr this would be a playoff team?[/quote]https://i.imgflip.com/m79sb.jpg

The Saints have a similar record with a better defense please explain how this theory is possible?

[chucker]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1186120]Are we allowed to say the obvious yet and accept that if we kept Carr this would be a playoff team?[/quote]You're certainly allowed to say it in the Carr thread, but there really wasn't a need to put it in the Chiefs week thread.

[16 to 88]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1186120]Are we allowed to say the obvious yet and accept that if we kept Carr this would be a playoff team?[/quote]lol.

You're kidding, right?

Jacobs had a league leading 1600 rushing yards last year and Carr was sacked only 27 times. He played a game last year where he couldn't move the ball against the team he plays for now past the 50 yard line but his back up came in and managed to do that difficult task on his first try.

-This year the Carr lead saints...

-Squeaked out a 1 point win 16-15 over the titans
-Rolled over the panthers 20-17
-Lost to the packers 18-17
-Lost to the bucs at home 26-9
-Beat down the pats 34-0 for the W
-Lost the very next week to the texans 20-13
-Lost to the jaguars 31-24
-Beat the colts 38-27
-Beat the bears 24-17
-Lost to the vikings 27-19
BYE

That's 5 wins against teams with losing records, 2 losses against teams with losing records and 3 losses against teams with winning records. If you are keeping track, and you should be, they haven't yet beat a team with a winning record.

The rest of their season shakes out like this...

-Falcons
-Lions
-Panthers
-Giants
-Rams
-Bucs
-Falcons

As it currently stands, they will face 1, ONE team, with a winning record the rest of the season. And they are at home for that game.

[Attyla]

Who Dat Nation talking

Misery In Minnesota
“Derek Carr is our starting quarterback.”
-Dennis Allen
“I still say Winston gets the first team reps during the bye week, and gets the ball the rest of the way, with Taysom getting some snaps, too. I’d rather the saints go down swinging than plod along with no life or spark.”
-Stan Verrett
Sometimes, it just comes down to bad matchups.
Brian Flores is a defensive maniac. Against the pressure from all angles, the statue known as Derek Carr crumbled. In the first quarter, the Saints run game was finding some daylight. Then a penalty. The New Orleans play calls, playing with a deficit, became stale. Minnesota dominated time of possession, which only exhausted Saints linemen. The Saints offense did not use the entire field effectively or creatively.
The Saints have a problem with quarterbacks who can run and it showed. It REALLY showed. As excellent as the Saints defensive backs have been playing, NO ONE can stay with a receiver running around with bonus time. Josh Dobbs rolled all over the field and made something from nothing. The contrast in QB playing personality was staggering. Once the momentum bent in Minnesota’s favor, the Saints could not do much to change things in the first half. Dobbs was 18/ 22 for 220 yards in the FIRST half. Carr had 51 yards passing. Crazy. The Saints pass rush was rendered invisible. 24-3 at the half. Game over.
Third quarter, Carr exits.
Jameis to Olave. Jameis to Perry. Two quick scores. What?
Two bold throws. Two amazing catches.
Zero running plays. No Hill.
Jameis giveth and forceth too many shots into deep coverage.
Derek Carr lacks pocket awareness.
Jameis Winston misreads coverages.
Jake Haener is an unknown.
Moving forward, whatever it takes, New Orleans MUST upgrade at QB.
I don’t care who.
A clone of CJ Stroud works.

[Attyla]

We should play a game: Raider fan or Saints fan?

Carr is a good game manager if a team needs that. The offense has too much talent for that and/or expectations are higher than that. He doesn’t go through progressions well. He’s a check down passer. Rarely allows receivers YAC. Doesn’t move well within pocket. Can’t hit receivers when he’s scrambling outside pocket. Not a dual threat which eliminates defense needing spotter. He’s capable of getting a team possibly to playoffs, but never a SB. I’d rather cut ties and pursue a QB who could lead to SB. Need a dual threat QB in todays NFL.

[Hellbound]

[quote=toobscruiser post_id=1186120]Are we allowed to say the obvious yet and accept that if we kept Carr this would be a playoff team?[/quote]Nice try at a troll job.....
This team would still be treading water. He was supposed to elevate the Saints and hasn't done anything more than Dalton did for them and they actually have a more complete team than we do.
So no it isn't "obvious"

[Hellbound]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1186355]We should play a game: Raider fan or Saints fan?
[/quote]It didn't even take half the year for most Saints fans to realize Carr isn't the qb they thought he was. You still have the ones who blame coaching, oline etc leading to infighting but for the most part they know he's mediocre
Reminds me of this board for past however many years!

[Amish Cabal]

Are we allowed to say the obvious yet and accept that if we kept Carr this would be a playoff team?

You can say what you want, but no. We'd have garbage play at QB and still be a middling team for 100x the price.

[Attyla]

[quote=Hellbound post_id=1186535]It didn't even take half the year for most Saints fans to realize Carr isn't the qb they thought he was. You still have the ones who blame coaching, oline etc leading to infighting but for the most part they know he's mediocre
Reminds me of this board for past however many years![/quote]yep, crazy to me.