Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Raiderz4life]

f[raiders_icon]ck you Carr. Stupid mascara wearing douchebag

[Attyla]

[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1132506]Because saints didn’t want to pay 40 mil..or anyone else[/quote]because this way they do not have to give up anything and they get their guy. Saints can back load the contract because they will have a lot of space in 2024

[NoClapsPlease]

f[raiders_icon]ck Carr

But Ziegler looks really stupid right now.

[DSOTM]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1132507]there was always going to be three things to any deal and the one I would not have had direct knowledge of was the no trade. We had reason to think he would in that he did get a visit. My gut tells me he has a deal with the saints. My gut says the Saints tampered and worked a deal with him so that they do not have to give up anything and still get their guy. If he signs with them after free agency opens up, I am almost sure that is what happened.[/quote]If Carr signs with the saints there has to be tampering. It’s the only team the raiders agreed he could speak to.
Not sure how you proof it but definitely tampering going on

[Swagron]

[quote=Raider727 post_id=1132501]attyla was wrong[/quote]It’s funny….these guys that act like there are an insider and people actually believe them lol

[chucker]

I wouldn't release him. Hold him, trade him later after he knows it's his only option. I don't think the contract is out of line with what he'll get as a FA.

[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=chucker post_id=1132515]I wouldn't release him. Hold him, trade him later after he knows it's his only option. I don't think the contract is out of line with what he'll get as a FA.[/quote]Interesting.

Petty, but interesting.

[Foed]

f[raiders_icon]ck him. He’s a f[raiders_icon]cking petty loser. Hope no one pays him even close to 40M.

[chucker]

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1132516]Interesting.

Petty, but interesting.[/quote]It's not petty to try to get a draft pick. It's getting value - we gave him an extra $5 million in 2022 when we extended him so we paid him some money for that contract. If the contract has value, then get something from it.

[Raider727]

[quote=chucker post_id=1132515]I wouldn't release him. Hold him, trade him later after he knows it's his only option. I don't think the contract is out of line with what he'll get as a FA.[/quote]But how good of a pick will it be?

A 3rd round pick at best, but imo it's not worth risking keeping him.

Just cut the loser already, dead weight ass qb!

[HesterLayes]

Our beat writers are ass..
Reed didn’t even know we don’t get a comp pick for him

[chucker]

[quote=Raider727 post_id=1132519]But how good of a pick will it be?

A 3rd round pick at best, but imo it's not worth risking keeping him.

Just cut the loser already, dead weight ass qb![/quote]There's no risk that you'd keep him. He wants to go, we want him gone. He'll go.

[Tatum32]

[quote=chucker post_id=1132515]I wouldn't release him. Hold him, trade him later after he knows it's his only option. I don't think the contract is out of line with what he'll get as a FA.[/quote]This is something Al Davis would have done in this situation out of spite, keep him and let him rot on the bench. Unfortunately the Raiders can’t play games like that because of how bad the contract is, Carr would take up $30 million of the salary cap. That contract is terrible, Ziegler never should have agreed to it.

[Foed]

[quote=chucker post_id=1132521]There's no risk that you'd keep him. He wants to go, we want him gone. He'll go.[/quote]I agree. Let’s just make him sit. See how his tune changes real quick.

[DSOTM]

[quote=DrDUne post_id=1132509]What a colossal f[raiders_icon]ck up all the way around.

I don’t care how mad you are at Carr, the front office is about to lose “a top FA QB” for literally no compensation.

Ziegler and the rest of the crew that awarded him an untradeable contract extension blew it. BLEW IT. You can hate Carr and still acknowledge he has value in the NFL.[/quote]99% on this forum were applauding this contract when it was signed because the raiders could get out off the contract easily. Now 99% are shitting on Z