Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Ismail86]

probably on my own here, but I'm cutting Carr now. The flag football game this weekend is too much of a risk.

[Raider4Ever]

[quote=Ismail86 post_id=1129829]probably on my own here, but I'm cutting Carr now. The flag football game this weekend is too much of a risk.[/quote]We can't. I believe league rules prevent cutting Carr before the SB is played.

[ALLRAIDERWORLD21]

[quote=live.B.A.raida post_id=1129824]https://www.reddit.com/r/raiders/commen ... ame=iossmf

Apparently word coming from Carr’s camp is that he prefers to be traded, which is exactly what I’d expect so he doesn’t have to “compete” on the open market. In getting a trade with that salary he knows a team really wants him and will not have to compete for the starting spot.[/quote]I'm not always a huge Florio fan but he has an interesting take on Carr being denied to talk to teams regarding a trade..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0ZjMqOy1A

[Ismail86]

[quote=Raider4Ever post_id=1129831]We can't. I believe league rules prevent cutting Carr before the SB is played.[/quote]seriously? I didn't realize that

[Sir Raider Duck, OMS]

[quote=Ismail86 post_id=1129842]seriously? I didn't realize that[/quote]I wasn't aware of the rule until a few years back when some late-season punt returner for the Steelers (who hadn't made the playoffs) was arrested for DUI a couple of weeks after the season ended. The Steelers cut him right away, but the NFL disallowed the transaction because the rosters were locked. So they cut him a few days after the SB instead.

[live.B.A.raida]

[quote=ALLRAIDERWORLD21 post_id=1129839]I'm not always a huge Florio fan but he has an interesting take on Carr being denied to talk to teams regarding a trade..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0ZjMqOy1A[/quote]Def a point to be made, although I think the Raiders still hold more leverage in being able to not let him hit the open market at all. If a team really wants him they’re going to have to give up something.

[chucker]

[quote=live.B.A.raida post_id=1129868]Def a point to be made, although I think the Raiders still hold more leverage in being able to not let him hit the open market at all. If a team really wants him they’re going to have to give up something.[/quote]The stuff Florio is talking about is what I've been thinking, and saying, all along. It's disturbing to me that I think like Florio, but meh. You have to do what you have to do to create leverage - sometimes it is just about creating the belief that you'll do whatever you need to do to in creating that leverage.

[Willmark]

I see you understand leverage!

[raiderkoch]

[quote=Dark Horse post_id=1129685]Only problem with that is he and his people are likely talking anyway[/quote]Then again, the Raiders can opt to keep him and shelve him. Carr is not going to want to sit and that just makes no sense for the end of this. Both can get what they want/need. Then again, if Carr has become as douchy as his brother has been, I guess all bets would be off!

[Rainman56]

[quote=raiderkoch post_id=1129672]Actually Raiders hold the power. They’re not cutting him for nothing. He’s going to valuable in some form, on the market at some point. People may not want to hear this but Sanjit said it on his video and it’s exactly what I’d already thought. You take the cap hit and hold him until a team comes calling. And one will eventually. For all the talk of dumb, the Raiders are actually in the better position with this contract and it’s a very smart move not allowing him to talk to other teams right now. Doesn’t allow him to find a price and whether or not to hold that no trade clause. He risks not ever getting a contract close to what he has with the Raiders now.[/quote]IMO too risky...I don't think he will waive his no trade clause for a team far from home.We take a cap hit,pay him a bunch more $$$ and he sits at home.Perfect scenario for him as football isn't near as important as the $$$.

Just flush The turd asap...I may be wrong but I don't see any team trading much for him to be worth the risk,distraction,cap hit and money we'd have to pay him to sit at home.

[Oaktownonly]

Don't take a chance with the cap hit. If no one has taken him from us a couple of days after the Super Bowel (yes I meant to type it that way because KC is in it), just cut him.

[Sir Raider Duck, OMS]

[quote=Rainman56 post_id=1129891]IMO too risky...I don't think he will waive his no trade clause for a team far from home.We take a cap hit,pay him a bunch more $$$ and he sits at home.Perfect scenario for him as football isn't near as important as the $$$. [/quote]That's an important point. He's already shown that his word means nothing, so who's to say he wouldn't be perfectly happy taking our money to be the #3 quarterback for a year, then retire?

[Ordos]

[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1129904]That's an important point. He's already shown that his word means nothing, so who's to say he wouldn't be perfectly happy taking our money to be the #3 quarterback for a year, then retire?[/quote]I get what you're saying, but my guess is that his pride would get the better of him.

He seems convinced that he's in the top class of QBs

[Rainman56]

[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1129904]That's an important point. He's already shown that his word means nothing, so who's to say he wouldn't be perfectly happy taking our money to be the #3 quarterback for a year, then retire?[/quote]Exactly and then he could forever tell himself how great he was but the Raiders held him back.Just my opinion but it's the $$$ he wants far more than winning football games...IMO he won't play far from home or for a strugling team for "the love of the game" and if/when he flops elseware the Raiders holding him back narrative goes out the window.Mind you him and his brothers will scream fom the mountain tops otherwise.

The Fresno fraud needs to be flushed,I can't see any team trading much for him so the risk far outweighs any gain.

[Rainman56]

[quote=live.B.A.raida post_id=1129824]https://www.reddit.com/r/raiders/commen ... ame=iossmf

Apparently word coming from Carr’s camp is that he prefers to be traded, which is exactly what I’d expect so he doesn’t have to “compete” on the open market. In getting a trade with that salary he knows a team really wants him and will not have to compete for the starting spot.[/quote]That and I don't see him getting paid remotely close to what his current contract is...He's in for a rude awakening if he hits the open market imo.