Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
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RaiderandBulldog
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rich72
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[quote=Ordos post_id=1126639]I certainly don't think it's in his best interest, but pride might get the better of him[/quote] Remember he wore hand warmers to play in the SOFI dome against the rams.
[quote=EaglevShark post_id=1126906] Are you even a Raider fan?[/quote]He’s never made an argument in good faith on here.
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Dark Horse
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[quote=VEfreak post_id=1126924]He’s never made an argument in good faith on here.[/quote]Or a logical argument as far as I have seen
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HesterLayes
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A guy can literally not spit out the shit posts that guy does in good faith.
He gets a rise out of you guys and gets creamy when you reply.
He gets a rise out of you guys and gets creamy when you reply.
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Forget Ivan. This guy is awesome. How do we get him a job as an NFL GM somewhere so we can get a couple first rounders for Carr?
https://twitter.com/im_right_though/sta ... 97155?s=20
https://twitter.com/im_right_though/sta ... 97155?s=20
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Xramfan
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[quote=Ivanavich post_id=1126603]Raiders don't deserve to get any compensation. Raiders should do the honorable thing and release him.
And if there is 'karma' in the world, Raiders will bring Jacobs back, run the '17 points per game' 'ground, pound and punt' offense and go 6-11 again. Raiders fans will blame it on Carr. But he won't be here and neither will any draft picks to replace him.
You get what you pay for! And Raiders crapped on Carr's career... so why should they be rewarded for it? AL would have never treated Carr the way that the Raiders GMs mistreated Carr.
Everybody, and I mean everybody, knew that going back to the Jacobs dysfunctional offense would cause the Raiders to have a losing season and cause Carr to have below average stats. Waller sat out half of the games and played like crap in most of the rest of them. Carr took the blame for Jacobs and Waller.
Fine. 6-11 with Jacobs in 2023. That's what Raiders fans deserve. More losing. Without Carr.
I will watch it anyway because it is entertainment, not football. The screaming fans... a stadium filled with the opponent's fans...
who knew? I can handle another 6-11 season without any hope of the playoffs in 2023.[/quote]You could have just answered,”I hope the Raiders get nothing fir him” and saved a bunch of blah blah blah ;)
And if there is 'karma' in the world, Raiders will bring Jacobs back, run the '17 points per game' 'ground, pound and punt' offense and go 6-11 again. Raiders fans will blame it on Carr. But he won't be here and neither will any draft picks to replace him.
You get what you pay for! And Raiders crapped on Carr's career... so why should they be rewarded for it? AL would have never treated Carr the way that the Raiders GMs mistreated Carr.
Everybody, and I mean everybody, knew that going back to the Jacobs dysfunctional offense would cause the Raiders to have a losing season and cause Carr to have below average stats. Waller sat out half of the games and played like crap in most of the rest of them. Carr took the blame for Jacobs and Waller.
Fine. 6-11 with Jacobs in 2023. That's what Raiders fans deserve. More losing. Without Carr.
I will watch it anyway because it is entertainment, not football. The screaming fans... a stadium filled with the opponent's fans...
who knew? I can handle another 6-11 season without any hope of the playoffs in 2023.[/quote]You could have just answered,”I hope the Raiders get nothing fir him” and saved a bunch of blah blah blah ;)
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[quote=rich72 post_id=1126920] Remember he wore hand warmers to play in the SOFI dome against the rams.[/quote]SOFI stadium isn’t technically a dome.
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Archaic
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[quote=danchase45 post_id=1126717]\ Desperation is real for QB's in the NFL. If you don't think it is, read the NY Jets message board.[/quote]You seem to forget that considering current back up QB's around the NFL, some starting NFL QB's who have fallen out of favor, the upcoming draft etc.... there are literally dozens of QB's available.
Carr has revealed his numerous deficiencies so I don't understand why you believe any team would be clamoring for his services. Your posts seem to imply that Carr is the only QB available, that there is a shortage of QB's a team could sign, but that is not actually the situation.
Carr has revealed his numerous deficiencies so I don't understand why you believe any team would be clamoring for his services. Your posts seem to imply that Carr is the only QB available, that there is a shortage of QB's a team could sign, but that is not actually the situation.
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Archaic
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[quote=Raiderfanrich post_id=1126651]Carr will never win a superbowl. I don't give a shit where he plays.[/quote]If he buys a ticket to the game Carr can get to a Super Bowl.
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HesterLayes
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On Twitter the latest tweet I saw was Washington,Jets, and Saints.
I just don’t see him going to New York.it’s cold and they have to play at Buffalo and at New England…cold. Plus,I think Saleh and Jimmy G connection is legit and he is a FA I believe.No picks.
Washington is a nice underrated squad.Young and a good DL with a few nice pieces on offense.Like I mentioned earlier in the thread,Del Rio and Rivera were good players and tough guys.I don’t think they go with the sis to lead their team.
Saints remain my choice just because of Allen.They have a decent D and Allen probably thinks higher of Carr than most…even though he couldn’t get to the 50 against them
I just don’t see him going to New York.it’s cold and they have to play at Buffalo and at New England…cold. Plus,I think Saleh and Jimmy G connection is legit and he is a FA I believe.No picks.
Washington is a nice underrated squad.Young and a good DL with a few nice pieces on offense.Like I mentioned earlier in the thread,Del Rio and Rivera were good players and tough guys.I don’t think they go with the sis to lead their team.
Saints remain my choice just because of Allen.They have a decent D and Allen probably thinks higher of Carr than most…even though he couldn’t get to the 50 against them
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Xramfan
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On the Interweb I still see some believe Carr is a top 10 QB. I really hope there is a GM out there that believes the same
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HesterLayes
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[quote=Xramfan post_id=1127018]On the Interweb I still see some believe Carr is a top 10 QB. I really hope there is a GM out there that believes the same[/quote]Who is the saints GM? They have all of their picks and have cap space? I know they’ll get something for Payton,but I assumed they were in cap hell still due to Payton
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[quote=Archaic post_id=1127013]You seem to forget that considering current back up QB's around the NFL, some starting NFL QB's who have fallen out of favor, the upcoming draft etc.... there are literally dozens of QB's available.
Carr has revealed his numerous deficiencies so I don't understand why you believe any team would be clamoring for his services. Your posts seem to imply that Carr is the only QB available, that there is a shortage of QB's a team could sign, but that is not actually the situation.[/quote]Not quite. Good, bad or indifferent Carr has been a starter for (most of) 9 years. He’s put up pretty solid stat lines for the most part and holds most of the Raiders team passing records.
To say Carr isn’t significantly better than the briefcase QBs that spot start on different teams every year… the NFL seems to disagree. Barring Garropolo and Carr there’s no obvious upgrades available for most of these teams. And even that’s not an apples to apples comparison considering the team they played for, starting experience and garropolo being notoriously injury prone while Carr has been incredibly durable.
Perhaps more importantly - every coach and GM of these teams rumoured to be interested in Carr is fighting to keep their job. Realistically you’re looking at a substantially higher trade price to move up for a rookie QB that may not work out. And even if they do - they may not deliver quick enough to save your job. Or you take a shot on a 9 year starter that has put up solid numbers on a highly dysfunctional team - think you can produce better results with him.
I’ll be anxiously awaiting those 3 days after the Super Bowl…
Carr has revealed his numerous deficiencies so I don't understand why you believe any team would be clamoring for his services. Your posts seem to imply that Carr is the only QB available, that there is a shortage of QB's a team could sign, but that is not actually the situation.[/quote]Not quite. Good, bad or indifferent Carr has been a starter for (most of) 9 years. He’s put up pretty solid stat lines for the most part and holds most of the Raiders team passing records.
To say Carr isn’t significantly better than the briefcase QBs that spot start on different teams every year… the NFL seems to disagree. Barring Garropolo and Carr there’s no obvious upgrades available for most of these teams. And even that’s not an apples to apples comparison considering the team they played for, starting experience and garropolo being notoriously injury prone while Carr has been incredibly durable.
Perhaps more importantly - every coach and GM of these teams rumoured to be interested in Carr is fighting to keep their job. Realistically you’re looking at a substantially higher trade price to move up for a rookie QB that may not work out. And even if they do - they may not deliver quick enough to save your job. Or you take a shot on a 9 year starter that has put up solid numbers on a highly dysfunctional team - think you can produce better results with him.
I’ll be anxiously awaiting those 3 days after the Super Bowl…
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HesterLayes
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I’m not a cap expert…I leave that to other guys on here,but I did a little digging and the Saints are still in hell.The great Payton really screwed them lol.With that said there is always ways to move numbers around I guess,but it seems unlikely they could afford Carr. Hope I’m wrong.
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Archaic
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[quote=Xramfan post_id=1127018]On the Interweb I still see some believe Carr is a top 10 QB. I really hope there is a GM out there that believes the same[/quote]Top 10 Fresno State QB's:
1 Derek Carr 12,842 2009 2011 2012 2013
2 Kevin Sweeney 10,808 1983 1984 1985 1986
3 Paul Pinegar 10,136 2002 2003 2004 2005
4 Jake Haener 9,013[3] 2020 2021 2022
5 Mark Barsotti 8,093 1988 1989 1990 1991
6 David Carr 7,849 1997 1998 2000 2001
7 Trent Dilfer 7,631 1991 1992 1993
8 Tom Brandstater 6,857 2005 2006 2007 2008
9 Billy Volek 6,532 1996 1997 1998 1999
10 Marcus McMaryion 6,355 2017 2018
1 Derek Carr 12,842 2009 2011 2012 2013
2 Kevin Sweeney 10,808 1983 1984 1985 1986
3 Paul Pinegar 10,136 2002 2003 2004 2005
4 Jake Haener 9,013[3] 2020 2021 2022
5 Mark Barsotti 8,093 1988 1989 1990 1991
6 David Carr 7,849 1997 1998 2000 2001
7 Trent Dilfer 7,631 1991 1992 1993
8 Tom Brandstater 6,857 2005 2006 2007 2008
9 Billy Volek 6,532 1996 1997 1998 1999
10 Marcus McMaryion 6,355 2017 2018