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Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:34 am
by GoodTimeCharlie
What’s your type?

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:31 am
by Black Sunshine
[quote=Ismail86 post_id=1170160]I get that we're currently the bottom of the barrel but shouldn't we be shooting for more than mediocrity?[/quote]Battered spouse syndrome

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:43 am
by RaiderFan1
Hiring a head coach is such a crapshoot unless you luck out with timing like a coach like Sean Payton or Andy Reid becomes available... so normally, it's a crapshoot, so that being said, maybe not my first choice, but it wouldn't be a bad choice if we did get Gruden back as long as he had no GM control, and we had a GM in place that had full control, Gruden could only be the head coach... He has shown he can design a great game plan to beat the Chiefs even when it was obvious that the Raiders talent level was nowhere even close to the Chiefs talent,, and we were still able to win, and then other games atleast compete to the end..
His schemes, playcalling, and game plans can actually be really good and he has proven this, of course, he needs the players to execute and perform for his playcalling and game plans to seem successful, we haven't had players to execute and perform for a long time consistently .... but gruden sucks at draft and free agent selections... again, not my first choice, I would love it if Sean Payton or Andy Reid type became available, but that's highly unlikely... so for me , my first choice would be a Sean Payton/Andy Reid type becoming available, second choice is difficult to say, but we can hope for a Brian Daboll type guy ready for head coach job, but like I said, that's a crapshoot, and I think third option would be Gruden with no GM power...... unfortunately, its all about timing and who becomes available...

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:42 am
by JTRaider
[quote=Ismail86 post_id=1170160]I get that we're currently the bottom of the barrel but shouldn't we be shooting for more than mediocrity?[/quote]This question was way too difficult to answer. '23 has been ...fun.

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:34 am
by heavyD
[quote=Ismail86 post_id=1170160]I get that we're currently the bottom of the barrel but shouldn't we be shooting for more than mediocrity?[/quote]Yes we should. Unfortunately Davis makes the final call and look where that’s led the team to date. I have less confidence in Mark finding the right people than I have in McDaniels getting this team on the right track.

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:36 am
by vtraider
[quote=heavyD post_id=1170225]Yes we should. Unfortunately Davis makes the final call and look where that’s led the team to date. I have less confidence in Mark finding the right people than I have in McDaniels getting this team on the right track.[/quote]At this point mediocrity is a step up

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:56 am
by CWood24
Where has all this Gruden can design a winning game plan come from he didn't have a winning season when he was here second time around

Gruden is horrible we need to steer clear he is old fashioned & out of touch

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:09 pm
by RaiderFan1
[quote=CWood24 post_id=1170230]Where has all this Gruden can design a winning game plan come from he didn't have a winning season when he was here second time around[/quote]a winning season has nothing to do with his ability to design a winning game plan and his schemes.

we had shit players and really shit defense, which shows his GM skills are horrific, but we new that from his time with Tampa.

But with that horrific defense and shit players he was still able to beat KC which at the time was the best team in the league, and the following years game we were winning at the very end, and Mahomes drove down the entire field with only seconds left on the clock to score and win it...

I give Gruden a lot of credit for those games. just look at the talent the chiefs had vs what the raiders had. Facts are facts, you can't deny he didn't do that, and it was impressive. Grudens problem has always been his drafting and free agent picks, not his Game plans and playcalling ..

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:35 pm
by raiders93
Honestly I think we need to stop going big brand and take a chance investing in an up and comer.

It’s hard to miss the pattern here: most of your top head coaches right now had never been head coaches prior (and tend to be younger)

Mcvay: first HC job was LA

Shannahan: first HC job was SF

McDermott: first HC job was Buffalo

McDaniel: first HC job was Miami

Lafleur: first HC job was Green Bay

Sirriani: first HC job was Philly

The list goes on.

My top pick would be the Lions o-coordinator Ben Johnson. Young, innovative, has made the lions offence relevant and all reports are players seem to love the guy.

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:31 pm
by Be_Easy_25
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Add 43-6 to Atlanta.
34-3 to the Jets.

No thanks.
Pass.

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:45 pm
by rich72
I think he will need to fire Patrick Graham before the end of the season if our defense keeps looking this bad.

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:48 pm
by RaiderandBulldog
[quote=rich72 post_id=1170301]I think he will need to fire Patrick Graham before the end of the season if our defense keeps looking this bad.[/quote]I said before the year started Graham would be the scapegoat this time.

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:53 pm
by vtraider
[quote=RaiderandBulldog post_id=1170304]I said before the year started Graham would be the scapegoat this time.[/quote]Only if the offense starts producing. After all between the money and that being McDaniels specialty it can't be bottom 5 and him escape being held culpable

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:31 pm
by Dark Horse
[quote=RaiderandBulldog post_id=1170304]I said before the year started Graham would be the scapegoat this time.[/quote]Not if this highly paid offense can't score

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:11 pm
by RaiderandBulldog
[quote=vtraider post_id=1170308]Only if the offense starts producing. After all between the money and that being McDaniels specialty it can't be bottom 5 and him escape being held culpable[/quote]If we had a real owner I would agree.

Re: Our Next Head Coach

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:01 pm
by Dark Horse
[quote=RaiderandBulldog post_id=1170328]If we had a real owner I would agree.[/quote]We have a real owner and he kicked Lil Derk out the club