Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[quote=Dark Horse post_id=1112094]Against the Pats historic defensive unit[/quote]You left out in the freezing cold in New England.

[Dark Horse]

The Panthers have two rushers over 100 yards. Steve Wilks got screwed with the Cardinals like no other HC.

[Dark Horse]

[quote=16 to 88 post_id=1112097]You left out in the freezing cold in New England.[/quote]I was being sarcastic. The Pats defense is very good, but a Carr friendly was claiming they were "great."

[Dark Horse]

Dexter Lawrence is stupid good. Pressure on almost every snap and leads the Giants in sacks!

[Opoponax50]

[quote=Raidernation1979 post_id=1112080]I say no due to his attitude. It’s not just his play. His team hates him cause of his attitude.[/quote]Yep. Plunk always had the heart and work ethic. He was willing to do the work. And back then, no rookie QB was simply anointed like they are now. You still had to earn your sport regardless of where you were drafted.

[Attyla]

[quote=Opoponax50 post_id=1112105]Yep. Plunk always had the heart and work ethic. He was willing to do the work. And back then, no rookie QB was simply anointed like they are now. You still had to earn your sport regardless of where you were drafted.[/quote]yea, heart plays a big part. Jim was also tough as nails. Was raised by two blind parents so he was always one who had to look after himself. After SF and being broken up inside, he could have walked. He did not. But he was not alone back then, QBs were also football players. Now QBs are just QBs who do not have that kind of toughness to be a football player as well.

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[quote=Dark Horse post_id=1112082] Add Trent Williams, Aaron Donald and Roquan Smith and then we can talk[/quote]Yeah, forgot about those guys.

Thanks for the catch!

[HesterLayes]

So many teams need QBs and it’s not even funny.

We aren’t in the worst shape,but we need to get our elite guy.

Many teams would trade for Carr now I believe

[Raidernation1979]

[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1112169]So many teams need QBs and it’s not even funny.

We aren’t in the worst shape,but we need to get our elite guy.

Many teams would trade for Carr now I believe[/quote]They need to have a deal in place and have a car sign a waiver for the no trade clause before the deadline hits for his guaranteed money. Even though I can’t believe official, they can have some paperwork signed that sets the deal up.

If not, I’m releasing him by that deadline

[Attyla]

not that I believe what athletes say, but he said he would only play for the Raiders. I kinda believe he would refuse to waive his no trade clause. that would mean he is either back or released outright.

still at around 80% that he is back next year. Especially if the decision makers sell him on the notion that they will focus on the oline and defense so he can do what he does and get better results.

But we either need to move on from our DC or get the personnel he needs to make it work.

[GUYDON]

Cut him, trade him, fly him to Somalia, I dont care as long as we have a different qb starting in 2023

[Atlasffa]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1112172]not that I believe what athletes say, but he said he would only play for the Raiders. I kinda believe he would refuse to waive his no trade clause. that would mean he is either back or released outright.

still at around 80% that he is back next year. Especially if the decision makers sell him on the notion that they will focus on the oline and defense so he can do what he does and get better results.

But we either need to move on from our DC or get the personnel he needs to make it work.[/quote]LOL. What have we been doing for 9 years???

[Attyla]

[quote=Atlasffa post_id=1112177]LOL. What have we been doing for 9 years???[/quote]failing. Z has personnel from the Gruden era, he was a shit GM who never understood how to build a defense. At least Al, for all his faults, was determined to spend on the defense and understood his defensive system. Z has his work cut out for him.

Remember, the sole player that Gruden did not turn over was Carr, he is responsible for what McD inherited.

[Atlasffa]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1112181]failing. Z has personnel from the Gruden era, he was a shit GM who never understood how to build a defense. At least Al, for all his faults, was determined to spend on the defense and understood his defensive system. Z has his work cut out for him.

Remember, the sole player that Gruden did not turn over was Carr, he is responsible for what McD inherited.[/quote]I should have said "trying" instead of doing. But my point is how many more years will we waste in attempting to get the players that match DC's abilities. Hopefully, none.

[Attyla]

[quote=Atlasffa post_id=1112182]I should have said "trying" instead of doing. But my point is how many more years will we waste in attempting to get the players that match DC's abilities. Hopefully, none.[/quote]that is how you build a defense. You get the players to match up with the system you run. There are some universal players like Max who will work in any system but some systems rely more on safeties than LBs, others need Corners who can play on an island. Ours needs better interior line play than what Gruden built and ours needs safeties who can play far more speed than Gruden built. We McD inherited a bunch of guys who do not play our new defensive system very well. Most of that is because Gruden did not bother to get much on defense because he was a crap evaluator