Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
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RaiderandBulldog
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[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1108679]Fun fact
Justin Herbert has lost 23 games since entering the league in 2020
Only Matt Ryan has lost more games (28)
Modern day Jeff George.[/quote]I don't think you want to argue W/L as a QB stat if it's to try to make Carr seem better by comparison.
I guess that means that Herbert is tied for second most losses in that time...... with Carr. So Carr is also the modern day Jeff George?
Carr has more losses this year than Herbert.
Carr has more losses since 2021 than Herbert.
I think most will agree that Carr is currently better than Ryan, even though Ryan was better overall.
Justin Herbert has lost 23 games since entering the league in 2020
Only Matt Ryan has lost more games (28)
Modern day Jeff George.[/quote]I don't think you want to argue W/L as a QB stat if it's to try to make Carr seem better by comparison.
I guess that means that Herbert is tied for second most losses in that time...... with Carr. So Carr is also the modern day Jeff George?
Carr has more losses this year than Herbert.
Carr has more losses since 2021 than Herbert.
I think most will agree that Carr is currently better than Ryan, even though Ryan was better overall.
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Jeremyturner1976
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[quote=chucker post_id=1108681]I don't think you want to argue W/L as a QB stat if it's to try to make Carr seem better by comparison.
I guess that means that Herbert is tied for second most losses in that time...... with Carr. So Carr is also the modern day Jeff George?
Carr has more losses this year than Herbert.
Carr has more losses since 2021 than Herbert.
I think most will agree that Carr is currently better than Ryan, even though Ryan was better overall.[/quote]Yes, but what about Trubisky? We have 32 'whatabout that' QBs to go through so we can say, sure Derek sucks, but so does X.
The art of NoClaps debate is all about avoiding the topic entirely, clearly.
I guess that means that Herbert is tied for second most losses in that time...... with Carr. So Carr is also the modern day Jeff George?
Carr has more losses this year than Herbert.
Carr has more losses since 2021 than Herbert.
I think most will agree that Carr is currently better than Ryan, even though Ryan was better overall.[/quote]Yes, but what about Trubisky? We have 32 'whatabout that' QBs to go through so we can say, sure Derek sucks, but so does X.
The art of NoClaps debate is all about avoiding the topic entirely, clearly.
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Attyla
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Fun fact: I would take Herbert with our offense over Carr every day of the week.
Facts are fun!
Facts are fun!
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Jeremyturner1976
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[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1108679]Fun fact
Justin Herbert has lost 23 games since entering the league in 2020
Only Matt Ryan has lost more games (28)
Modern day Jeff George.[/quote]Fun fact, Herbert is second all time in TD passes his first three years at 90. 30 a year, while protecting the ball.
Derek in his last four full seasons has thrown 80. 20 a year, and we have all seen him cough up the ball a ton.
Herbert is 10 TD passes better per year than Derek Carr. Sad.
Justin Herbert has lost 23 games since entering the league in 2020
Only Matt Ryan has lost more games (28)
Modern day Jeff George.[/quote]Fun fact, Herbert is second all time in TD passes his first three years at 90. 30 a year, while protecting the ball.
Derek in his last four full seasons has thrown 80. 20 a year, and we have all seen him cough up the ball a ton.
Herbert is 10 TD passes better per year than Derek Carr. Sad.
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Attyla
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1108686]Fun fact, Herbert is second all time in TD passes his first three years at 90. 30 a year, while protecting the ball.
Derek in his last four full seasons has thrown 80. 20 a year, and we have all seen him cough up the ball a ton.
Herbert is 10 TD passes better per year than Derek Carr. Sad.[/quote]now that is a fun fact!
Derek in his last four full seasons has thrown 80. 20 a year, and we have all seen him cough up the ball a ton.
Herbert is 10 TD passes better per year than Derek Carr. Sad.[/quote]now that is a fun fact!
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[quote=Jeremyturner1976 post_id=1108686]Fun fact, Herbert is second all time in TD passes his first three years at 90. 30 a year, while protecting the ball.
Derek in his last four full seasons has thrown 80. 20 a year, and we have all seen him cough up the ball a ton.
Herbert is 10 TD passes better per year than Derek Carr. Sad.[/quote]Fun fact. It’s the defenses fault.
Derek in his last four full seasons has thrown 80. 20 a year, and we have all seen him cough up the ball a ton.
Herbert is 10 TD passes better per year than Derek Carr. Sad.[/quote]Fun fact. It’s the defenses fault.
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Contact Riff MajesticLet's not mention their ability to use their legs, Herbert already has almost as many career rushing yards as Carr.
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[quote=Riff Majestic post_id=1108691]Let's not mention their ability to use their legs, Herbert already has almost as many career rushing yards as Carr.[/quote].... and more career rushing TDs - 8 to 6.
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1.Burrow
2.Mahomes
3.Allen
4.Herbert/Hurts
That’s the list
2.Mahomes
3.Allen
4.Herbert/Hurts
That’s the list
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Jeremyturner1976
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[quote=Attyla post_id=1108688]now that is a fun fact![/quote]Herbert's third season still is not complete, so it only gets worse from here for Derek for the 'whatabout' crowd.
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No one in the last two years, except Matt Ryan, has been better at losing than Mr Sherbert
His streak will continue once this season closes.
His streak will continue once this season closes.
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Wait were back to QB W/L is a thing? I thought football was a team sport?
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[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1108700]No one in the last two years, except Matt Ryan, has been better at losing than Mr Sherbert
His streak will continue once this season closes.[/quote]What streak? Herbert 2021-2022 - 14 losses. Carr 2021-2022 - 15 losses.
15 > 14
His streak will continue once this season closes.[/quote]What streak? Herbert 2021-2022 - 14 losses. Carr 2021-2022 - 15 losses.
15 > 14
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OK, that is cute, but....
Herbert has a higher winning percentage this year with a tougher strength of schedule than our guy and Herbert has a 52% chance of making the playoffs vs Carr's 3%.
And that streak will continue into next year as well.
Herbert has a higher winning percentage this year with a tougher strength of schedule than our guy and Herbert has a 52% chance of making the playoffs vs Carr's 3%.
And that streak will continue into next year as well.
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Attyla
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so did some comparing because comparing a QB to one other one is what we do now....and interestingly enough...
Herbert in the last three years vs Carr in the same span
Wins: 22 /23
Passing Yards: 13056 / 12024
TD Passes: 90 / 70
INTs: 32 /33
Fumbles: 15 /27
Rushing : 679 /336
Rushing TDs: 8 /3
Sacks: 93 /77
Very close in stats to be sure. Well except the TDs, rushing and rushing TDs. One telling thing which I already knew was that Carr's protection has been far better than Herbert's.
But fun numbers none the less....and that is an interesting fact.
Herbert in the last three years vs Carr in the same span
Wins: 22 /23
Passing Yards: 13056 / 12024
TD Passes: 90 / 70
INTs: 32 /33
Fumbles: 15 /27
Rushing : 679 /336
Rushing TDs: 8 /3
Sacks: 93 /77
Very close in stats to be sure. Well except the TDs, rushing and rushing TDs. One telling thing which I already knew was that Carr's protection has been far better than Herbert's.
But fun numbers none the less....and that is an interesting fact.