Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)
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[quote=CWood24 post_id=1103871]
At 20m with his play we’d be happy to keep him around but at 40m he is a dead weight [/quote]I believe Derek Carr's skill level is that of a $2 million per year veteran back up QB.
At 20m with his play we’d be happy to keep him around but at 40m he is a dead weight [/quote]I believe Derek Carr's skill level is that of a $2 million per year veteran back up QB.
[quote=Archaic post_id=1104065]I believe Derek Carr's skill level is that of a $2 million per year veteran back up QB.[/quote]His value is basically whatever Andy Dalton is getting paid.
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[quote=Atlasffa post_id=1104052]Metal toughness is more difficult to achieve and measure than physical prowess, but you know it when you see and hear it. Here's Tom Brady after a tough loss during a tough season: "It's up to us to change the momentum."
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I also heard him today on one of sports show saying he would rather play losing football than not play football at all. My guess is he was answering the unspoken question of whether or not he regrets playing this year.[/quote]You mean he didn't start crying while throwing other teammates under the bus. Go figure.
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I also heard him today on one of sports show saying he would rather play losing football than not play football at all. My guess is he was answering the unspoken question of whether or not he regrets playing this year.[/quote]You mean he didn't start crying while throwing other teammates under the bus. Go figure.
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I don’t hate Carr and I think he is decent.There are many worse QBs playing in today’s game.
My issue is how much he gets paid compared to his production.40 mil next year is absurd. You can get the same or close to the same production from a rook at a fraction of the cost.That’s the issue with Carr.
My issue is how much he gets paid compared to his production.40 mil next year is absurd. You can get the same or close to the same production from a rook at a fraction of the cost.That’s the issue with Carr.
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[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1104106]I don’t hate Carr and I think he is decent.There are many worse QBs playing in today’s game.
My issue is how much he gets paid compared to his production.40 mil next year is absurd. You can get the same or close to the same production from a rook at a fraction of the cost.That’s the issue with Carr.[/quote]over the cap has him 9th highest in cap number and 5th in dollars in 2023. In 2024 that cap hit is 5th and his dollars are third overall. That is more money than Josh and Patrick. Good gig if you can get it.
My issue is how much he gets paid compared to his production.40 mil next year is absurd. You can get the same or close to the same production from a rook at a fraction of the cost.That’s the issue with Carr.[/quote]over the cap has him 9th highest in cap number and 5th in dollars in 2023. In 2024 that cap hit is 5th and his dollars are third overall. That is more money than Josh and Patrick. Good gig if you can get it.
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[quote=rich72 post_id=1101840] If Carr is the answer what was the question?[/quote]What’s the best way to feel frustratingly close to having a franchise QB without actually having one?
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[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1104106]I don’t hate Carr and I think he is decent.There are many worse QBs playing in today’s game.
My issue is how much he gets paid compared to his production.40 mil next year is absurd. You can get the same or close to the same production from a rook at a fraction of the cost.That’s the issue with Carr.[/quote]He's a self-absorbed baby and always has been. ANYTHING but a leader. An anti-Raider. Not sure who's the bigger shit stain on this franchise, him or Markie.
My issue is how much he gets paid compared to his production.40 mil next year is absurd. You can get the same or close to the same production from a rook at a fraction of the cost.That’s the issue with Carr.[/quote]He's a self-absorbed baby and always has been. ANYTHING but a leader. An anti-Raider. Not sure who's the bigger shit stain on this franchise, him or Markie.
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[quote=Amish Cabal post_id=1104129]He's a self-absorbed baby and always has been. ANYTHING but a leader. An anti-Raider. Not sure who's the bigger shit stain on this franchise, him or Markie.[/quote]I’m all about going young at QB in 23,but I have to admit getting Brady in here for a year with these weapons would be sweet.I think he would demand we fix our pass d however.
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[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1104106]I don’t hate Carr and I think he is decent.There are many worse QBs playing in today’s game.
My issue is how much he gets paid compared to his production.40 mil next year is absurd. You can get the same or close to the same production from a rook at a fraction of the cost.That’s the issue with Carr.[/quote]I don't hate him either, his fans are annoying though. He's a decent QB, who will flash elite skills and then play like the worst QB in the league the next game.
My issue is how much he gets paid compared to his production.40 mil next year is absurd. You can get the same or close to the same production from a rook at a fraction of the cost.That’s the issue with Carr.[/quote]I don't hate him either, his fans are annoying though. He's a decent QB, who will flash elite skills and then play like the worst QB in the league the next game.
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[quote=June510 post_id=1104139]I don't hate him either, his fans are annoying though. He's a decent QB, who will flash elite skills and then play like the worst QB in the league the next game.[/quote]And when he does play like crap his fans either crawl back under their rock or blame any and everyone other than Carr for his performance…
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Carr Cap Hit by year:
2022: $19.375M
2023: $34.875M (dead cap $5.625M)
2024: $43.875M (dead cap $3.750M)
2025: $43.175M (dead cap $1.875M)
Don't see a $40M+ cap hit until 2024 with minimal dead cap starting 2023 - that was the point of the extension. Reading comprehension was mentioned earlier in this thread. Maybe some research is needed prior to posting as well. Here are several links that can help with that.
Carr Salary Breakdown:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-r ... e%20Clause
Full QB Salary Breakdown:
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback
2022 QB salary Breakdown:
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2022
2022: $19.375M
2023: $34.875M (dead cap $5.625M)
2024: $43.875M (dead cap $3.750M)
2025: $43.175M (dead cap $1.875M)
Don't see a $40M+ cap hit until 2024 with minimal dead cap starting 2023 - that was the point of the extension. Reading comprehension was mentioned earlier in this thread. Maybe some research is needed prior to posting as well. Here are several links that can help with that.
Carr Salary Breakdown:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-r ... e%20Clause
Full QB Salary Breakdown:
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback
2022 QB salary Breakdown:
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2022
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[quote=kramNAVILLUS post_id=1104144]Carr Cap Hit by year:2022: $19.375M
2023: $34.875M (dead cap $5.625M)
2024: $43.875M (dead cap $3.750M)
2025: $43.175M (dead cap $1.875M)
Don't see a $40M+ cap hit until 2024 with minimal dead cap starting 2023 - that was the point of the extension. Reading comprehension was mentioned earlier in this thread. Maybe some research is needed prior to posting as well. Here are several links that can help with that.
Carr Salary Breakdown:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-r ... e%20Clause
Full QB Salary Breakdown:
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback
2022 QB salary Breakdown:
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2022[/quote]Please do the math on the following sentence from your link https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-r ... e%20Clause :
2023 salary ($32,900,000) + $7.5M of 2024 salary fully guarantees 2/15/2023 (injury guaranteed at signing)= $40,400,000
Contract Notes:
$24.9M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2022 salary)
2023 salary + $7.5M of 2024 salary fully guarantees 2/15/2023 (injury guaranteed at signing)
Full No Trade Clause
(Reading Comprehension was indeed mentioned earlier in the thread)
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[quote=Amish Cabal post_id=1104129]He's a self-absorbed baby and always has been. ANYTHING but a leader. An anti-Raider. Not sure who's the bigger shit stain on this franchise, him or Markie.[/quote]https://media0.giphy.com/media/tODygE8K ... y.gif&ct=g
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[quote=352Raider post_id=1104149] Please do the math on the following sentence from your link https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-r ... e%20Clause :
2023 salary ($32,900,000) + $7.5M of 2024 salary fully guarantees 2/15/2023 (injury guaranteed at signing)= $40,400,000
Contract Notes:
$24.9M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2022 salary)
2023 salary + $7.5M of 2024 salary fully guarantees 2/15/2023 (injury guaranteed at signing)
Full No Trade Clause
(Reading Comprehension was indeed mentioned earlier in the thread)[/quote]https://media0.giphy.com/media/tODygE8K ... y.gif&ct=g
Please do the math on the following sentence from your link https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-r ... e%20Clause :2023 salary ($32,900,000) + $7.5M of 2024 salary fully guarantees 2/15/2023 (injury guaranteed at signing)= $40,400,000
Contract Notes:
$24.9M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2022 salary)
2023 salary + $7.5M of 2024 salary fully guarantees 2/15/2023 (injury guaranteed at signing)
Full No Trade Clause
(Reading Comprehension was indeed mentioned earlier in the thread)[/quote]https://media0.giphy.com/media/tODygE8K ... y.gif&ct=g
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[quote=VEfreak post_id=1104068]His value is basically whatever Andy Dalton is getting paid.[/quote]Yes.
Which is exactly why I don't think he will be back here next year.
I don't believe McDaniels and company are in love with Carr the way Gruden was and think they can turn him around especially seeing he will be 32 next year. They aren't tied to him and if anything they see what you and I see and so many others. It's why the contract was written the way it was.
Which is exactly why I don't think he will be back here next year.
I don't believe McDaniels and company are in love with Carr the way Gruden was and think they can turn him around especially seeing he will be 32 next year. They aren't tied to him and if anything they see what you and I see and so many others. It's why the contract was written the way it was.