Kirk Cousins (Traded to Vikings)

[Reno Hightower]

I have rarely seen a QB do more with less. Kubiak has made it clear that he is the guy this year but his play has really defied conventional wisdom. The run blocking is as putrid as it was last season. The pass blocking has been getting compliments but how much as that has to do with Cousins's pocket presence and pre snap reads?

I am not sure the subject deserves its own thread but I think what he has accomplished this season cannot be overstated and he has essentially put the offense on his back. I don't think anyone saw this coming.

Thoughts?...

[chucker]

You can get a surefire star with a 3rd rounder by trading it to the Steelers for a WR.

[ELCAraiderfan]

Purdy was drafted last, round 7. He's done very well. It's always a crap shoot in the draft, but if you have a very good evaluator of college football players who will transition and be good to great players in the NFL, then the draft round number of the pick you acquire via trade isn't that bad.

I keep bringing his name up because he was one of the best all time in the NFL, Ron Wolf, why he is in the
Hall of Fame. I hope that Spytek and his staff can be as good or as close as possible as good as Ron was. We will see. This team, organization and us fans need it to happen now

[ELCAraiderfan]

I picked the wrong thread to quit sniffing glue

I didn't know there was a right one to stop....Just keep sniffing, just keep sniffing...(hearing Dory while reading this :)

[Willmark]

Purdy was drafted last, round 7. He's done very well. It's always a crap shoot in the draft, but if you have a very good evaluator of college football players who will transition and be good to great players in the NFL, then the draft round number of the pick you acquire via trade isn't that bad.

Purdy is an extreme outlier when it comes to players let alone QBs. The math on it is likely insane with how improbable that is.

[raiderjohn]

A post from a Vikings forum that I thought worth sharing lol:

“ Just f*cking fire everyone now and save us the time. Anything that isn't nailed down, fired. Can we fire the Wilves too? Gawd alllllmighty this is officially the stupidestest franchise ever. I'm out of toilet paper so I could've used that 3rd round pick to wipe my ass, and that would've been a better use of it.

This is Baby Kubes giving us the finger isn't it? He's gonna get the last laugh. He had this planned, because he's so much smarter than Desperate O'Conman, the snake politician who keeps dooming this franchise, trying to save his own skin, which is just hanging on by a thread at this point. The moulting was almost finished, and the Yikings think they can reattach it with used bubblegum and ghosts from xmas past.

This is it though right? When this blows up in everyone's face, and it will, everyone is gone right? A complete house cleaning? Fire Teasly too, that guy is clearly an idiot who can get talked into anything. Conman the used car salesman just talked him into buy a lemon ... A F*CKING LEMON WE HAD ALREADY OWNED!!! *bash* KOC isn't even his guy and he's bending over for him, becoming a 3rd dumbass GM to hitch his stupid ass to this absolute loser of a QB. Everything must go when this sh*t show crashes and burns.

At least tell me 2027 will be a clean slate? Give me something to look forward to, or does this guarantee another run with KOC and Kurt in 2027 because they think they f*cked up the Darnold situation?

OMG I hate this useless ass franchise so much. The SS Mediocrity strikes again, dropping anchor in the Bay of 500, with a fresh layer of duct tape. And ofc the purple saps are lapping up every drop of stupidity like a purple headed step child suffering from Battered Fan Syndrome. *facepalm* Which is the ONLY reason they pulled this stunt. You yahoos flooded their inbox with "go get kurt" messages, didn't you? Ugh! The same reason they keep bringing the $hitman back. Is this real? I can't believe this is real.

Go Pack Go .... *wallbang*

Would Brian Flores work here under Kubiak?

[Attyla]

Purdy was drafted last, round 7. He's done very well. It's always a crap shoot in the draft, but if you have a very good evaluator of college football players who will transition and be good to great players in the NFL, then the draft round number of the pick you acquire via trade isn't that bad.

I keep bringing his name up because he was one of the best all time in the NFL, Ron Wolf, why he is in the
Hall of Fame. I hope that Spytek and his staff can be as good or as close as possible as good as Ron was. We will see. This team, organization and us fans need it to happen now

You have to play the odds and the odds do suggest that a 7th rounder will not amount to much. Purdy is the exception and a pretty stark exception at that. Brady was as well. The higher the pick the longer the career. And the HOF proves it as well.
137 HOF round 1
38 HOF round 2
28 HOF round 3
12 HOF round 4
8 HOF round 5
4 HOF round 6
10 HOF round 7

In the lower rounds after 7 it is mostly guys from the first years of the league when drafting was not as much about knowing who you are picking and more about who was willing to play in a league where you had to have a job on the side. Even in the 7th round, only Shannon Sharpe is a modern day player. And yes, there were 24 players who were undrafted. Kurt Warner, Moon and Gates (I don't count Vinatieri because a lot of kickers in the league went undrafted who had a lot of success) were all undrafted. But that is 3 out of 24.

Bottom line, the higher the pick the longer the career and the better odds that you will be good to very good to elite. I personally think of draft picks like poker chips. Your stack looks good but the value of the chip is far more important. But using the exception and not the rule is not going to establish much

[Willmark]

You have to play the odds and the odds do suggest that a 7th rounder will not amount to much. Purdy is the exception and a pretty stark exception at that. Brady was as well. The higher the pick the longer the career. And the HOF proves it as well.
137 HOF round 1
38 HOF round 2
28 HOF round 3
12 HOF round 4
8 HOF round 5
4 HOF round 6
10 HOF round 7

In the lower rounds after 7 it is mostly guys from the first years of the league when drafting was not as much about knowing who you are picking and more about who was willing to play in a league where you had to have a job on the side. Even in the 7th round, only Shannon Sharpe is a modern day player. And yes, there were 24 players who were undrafted. Kurt Warner, Moon and Gates (I don't count Vinatieri because a lot of kickers in the league went undrafted who had a lot of success) were all undrafted. But that is 3 out of 24.

Bottom line, the higher the pick the longer the career and the better odds that you will be good to very good to elite. I personally think of draft picks like poker chips. Your stack looks good but the value of the chip is far more important. But using the exception and not the rule is not going to establish much

The flip side is Purdy an example of how QB breaks all the rules.

I’ve long advocated that teams should spend a late round pick on a QB nearly every year or other year, even if they already have an established starter.

Why? Simple. The potential payoff is enormously disproportionate to the investment.

By the fifth, sixth, or seventh round, you’re generally looking at depth players, special teams contributors, etc. Many of those roles can be filled with players released by other teams during final roster cuts.

Instead, take a shot at a QB. Most won’t pan out, and that’s fine. But if you find a Brock Purdy? You’ve hit the jackpot.

And here’s the part people overlook. He doesn’t even have to become YOUR starter. All you need is another team to see enough potential in him to offer you more draft capital than you originally invested.

Worst case, you’ve lost a late-round pick. Best case, you’ve found a franchise QB or turned a relatively inexpensive investment into a valuable trade asset.

It’s all about the asymmetrical upside. The potential reward far outweighs the relatively modest risk IMO.

[Willmark]

And to add I’m not saying drafting a QB with every pick rounds 5 through 7. I am saying that allocating one of these picks is a better strategy than picking that WR5 your position coach desperately wants.

[Nor_Cal_Raider]

If Kirk doesn't shit the bed I can see minny having him be a bridge qb next year also.

[Cruisin with Tooz]

Sure but our odds of finding a 3rd round starter just doubled to 66%

more like 55%.

edit: didnt see willmark's post. Willmark is right. Probabilities are not additive in this sitch.

[LayneStaley]