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I have rarely seen a QB do more with less. Kubiak has made it clear that he is the guy this year but his play has really defied conventional wisdom. The run blocking is as putrid as it was last season. The pass blocking has been getting compliments but how much as that has to do with Cousins's pocket presence and pre snap reads?

I am not sure the subject deserves its own thread but I think what he has accomplished this season cannot be overstated and he has essentially put the offense on his back. I don't think anyone saw this coming.

Thoughts?...
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Lets see how desperate Minny is.....
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Reno Hightower wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2026 2:55 pm I have rarely seen a QB do more with less. Kubiak has made it clear that he is the guy this year but his play has really defied conventional wisdom. The run blocking is as putrid as it was last season. The pass blocking has been getting compliments but how much as that has to do with Cousins's pocket presence and pre snap reads?

I am not sure the subject deserves its own thread but I think what he has accomplished this season cannot be overstated and he has essentially put the offense on his back. I don't think anyone saw this coming.

Thoughts?...
I believe so. Tools not there, Kubiak has schemed to our talent, the twin TE monster. If Kirk is around, the next thing is to get Ashton into open space on passes, he can do a lot of damage after the catch. He's put up NFL leading numbers without a running game. He's making reads, making calls at the line, he's the leader and the team is looking to him as such. If we're on playoff runs in 27 and beyond, we really have to look back at Cousins' impact on and off the field.
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FYI you guys are dreaming if you think we can get a low 1st for Cousins, I don't even see a second for the guy.

As for Crosby? I don't believe they are moving him.
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raiderjohn wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 10:53 am Lets see how desperate Minny is.....
I bet they offer a 3 and 5, we should demand a 2nd. Wentz is horrible.
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Attyla wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 10:57 am FYI you guys are dreaming if you think we can get a low 1st for Cousins, I don't even see a second for the guy.

As for Crosby? I don't believe they are moving him.
I originally felt the same about the 2nd but looking at the Vikings situation they literally have everything for a SB run minus the QB. Wentz is so bad and that 2nd will be a late round 2nd. I think a 3rd/5th combo is probably more realistic but they gotta be desperate right now.
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LayneStaley wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 11:00 am I originally felt the same about the 2nd but looking at the Vikings situation they literally have everything for a SB run minus the QB. Wentz is so bad and that 2nd will be a late round 2nd. I think a 3rd/5th combo is probably more realistic but they gotta be desperate right now.
I understand but I just don't buy the hype.
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LayneStaley wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 11:00 am I originally felt the same about the 2nd but looking at the Vikings situation they literally have everything for a SB run minus the QB. Wentz is so bad and that 2nd will be a late round 2nd. I think a 3rd/5th combo is probably more realistic but they gotta be desperate right now.
Completely agree. In a vacuum no way Kirk is worth a 2nd. Probs not even a 3rd. I think we had very little interest in trading him so we set the price high. 2nd still seems unlikely but they may be desperate enough for a 3rd and 5th.
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I think looking for a 3 is realistic but delay until closer to the deadline to try to get more. But do not pass on a deal just because you can’t get more.
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chucker wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 11:05 am I think looking for a 3 is realistic but delay until closer to the deadline to try to get more. But do not pass on a deal just because you can’t get more.
...that would seem to be the most realistic scenario....
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chucker wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 11:05 am I think looking for a 3 is realistic but delay until closer to the deadline to try to get more. But do not pass on a deal just because you can’t get more.
Agree. They have two 3rds. Haggle for more but take the 3rd if that's it.
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WNYRAIDER wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 11:07 am ...that would seem to be the most realistic scenario....
before the needs at QB for a couple teams, I was at the 4th round area for value. With the need, I am at a 3rd. I would run to the phone for a third right now.
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Rabidraider wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 8:49 am Mendoza should get 17 games before one person disses the guy.

He will have ugly games. But so did many hall of famers.
Based on previous precedence he has nine years. After all that’s what Boy Wonder got. Hell there are diehard supporters to this very day.

Granted about halfway through people started questioning said QB but the point stands.
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Attyla wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 11:09 am before the needs at QB for a couple teams, I was at the 4th round area for value. With the need, I am at a 3rd. I would run to the phone for a third right now.

....plus, that would remove us from the 10 million obligation next year?......
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WNYRAIDER wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2026 11:19 am ....plus, that would remove us from the 10 million obligation next year?......
yes, a small help to the cap is always nice
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I wouldn't trade him for a third. Sorry, if it is critical for the development of Mendoza to continue to sit, then it is not worth a third rounder to rush him ahead of schedule. I would do it for a second and Minnesota might be desperate enough. If not, just hang on to Cousins.

Still find it hysterical that they play musical chairs at Qb over the past few years and right back with Cousins who wasn't good enough for them at the time.
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