Thursday night football game thread

[RaiderandBulldog]

Tonight’s matchup is in the Bills Brand new Staduim as they host the lions.

[Attyla]

You must of missed the part where I said I don't give a Shit! I had a drone land in my backyard & I curb stomped it & threw it in the ditch behind my house, and it's been crickets lol What's more of an invasion of your privacy than a drone hoovering in your backyard other than a perverted peeping tom???

Eh the laws protect both parties. But the burden of proof lies with the guy with the video. There have been lawsuits over such issues and the one's that have been won by the drone flyer has resulted in reasonably big payouts. Depending on the state law, they can get everything from cost of the drone, loss of wages, court costs and attorney fees. You might say you don't give a shit but I have seen claims as high as 7K in restitution. All because someone assumed they were being spied on when it was just a surveyor doing their job as a contractor. Always better to ask than assume. Almost all drone flyers in a residential area are very close to where their birds are flying. But I appreciate the tough guy approach. I just wish the reality was anywhere near your fiction. I have flown drones over hundreds of houses and the worst that has happened is some guy in a bathrobe has come out of a house and asked me if I was taking pictures of his neighbors house which was up for sale. Next time I should tell them I am spying on their daughter taking a bath so i can get paid.

[pfish57]

Eh the laws protect both parties. But the burden of proof lies with the guy with the video. There have been lawsuits over such issues and the one's that have been won by the drone flyer has resulted in reasonably big payouts. Depending on the state law, they can get everything from cost of the drone, loss of wages, court costs and attorney fees. You might say you don't give a shit but I have seen claims as high as 7K in restitution. All because someone assumed they were being spied on when it was just a surveyor doing their job as a contractor. Always better to ask than assume. Almost all drone flyers in a residential area are very close to where their birds are flying. But I appreciate the tough guy approach. I just wish the reality was anywhere near your fiction. I have flown drones over hundreds of houses and the worst that has happened is some guy in a bathrobe has come out of a house and asked me if I was taking pictures of his neighbors house which was up for sale. Next time I should tell them I am spying on their daughter taking a bath so i can get paid.

My house & property has been paid off for 30 years...no need for surveyors...like I said no drone needs to be hoovering 20 ft off the ground in my backyard...if it stays there long enough I will obliterate it & I don't give a shit the consequences...just saying;)

[raider_kin]

My house & property has been paid off for 30 years...no need for surveyors...like I said no drone needs to be hoovering 20 ft off the ground in my backyard...if it stays there long enough I will obliterate it & I don't give a shit the consequences...just saying;)

Shoot first, ask zero questions later

[Reno Hightower]

Trevor Lawrence looks elite to me...

He is really starting to come into his own. I think it will be Jax or Buffalo representing the AFC in the Super Bowl this year.

[Attyla]

My house & property has been paid off for 30 years...no need for surveyors...like I said no drone needs to be hoovering 20 ft off the ground in my backyard...if it stays there long enough I will obliterate it & I don't give a shit the consequences...just saying;)

So here is the truth behind what I and others do. We are not surveying your house. We are taking pictures of a house that may soon hit the market. That requires some pictures from above and at various angles, which does require hovering over another property. It can be a long process to get the right shot. I will literally take 100 shots and only 5 might be used. It is exactly as it sounds, I am a photographer but I use a tool to take those shots. At any of my gigs, I carry 5 or so batteries. I could be over your house for half an hour just taking pics of your neighbor's roof, gutters backyard etc. There have been a few reported shootings of drones just doing a job for a realtor. In addition to lawsuits for damage to property while conducting lawful business, one such instance down in Florida resulted in the arrest of the shooter for felony discharge of a gun in a residential neighborhood. I heard about it in passing as I am also connected to an email service that is tied to professional drone operators. I have no idea what the result was. As I said, I typically let the neighbors know what I am doing and about how long I will be working. Not everyone answers their doors though. I find the work fun and a bit challenging because there is a lot of skill that goes into getting those shots and realtors can be picky as hell, rightfully so. But I have a license to do what I do. I actually have a gig today. But that is a warehouse with most the shots being inside the building. 300 bucks cash. But I can go weeks between gigs. So 300 bucks for 2 hours work is not bad. Where it gets really fun is the video work. Getting that perfect dynamic swoop and approach can be really fun to shoot.

But protections are there for both parties. You as a homeowner have a right to privacy. So I have to specifically not capture your property in any of my shots, with video, I can grab wide angles which will include your property but I cannot capture people or the inside of a dwelling. I also cannot fly it in such a way that could be deemed as harassment. But merely being over your property line does not legally allow you to shoot at it. You as the property owner have to have reasonable assurance that I have invaded your property. Sight lines show you where my camera lens is pointed.

Drones have been shot down, that is well documented. Fortunately, thus far no drone operator has been shot at or killed. But we live in a whacky place and time. I am firmly of the opinion that it is a matter of time before that happens.

[Hellbound]

So here is the truth behind what I and others do. We are not surveying your house. We are taking pictures of a house that may soon hit the market. That requires some pictures from above and at various angles, which does require hovering over another property. It can be a long process to get the right shot. I will literally take 100 shots and only 5 might be used. It is exactly as it sounds, I am a photographer but I use a tool to take those shots. At any of my gigs, I carry 5 or so batteries. I could be over your house for half an hour just taking pics of your neighbor's roof, gutters backyard etc. There have been a few reported shootings of drones just doing a job for a realtor. In addition to lawsuits for damage to property while conducting lawful business, one such instance down in Florida resulted in the arrest of the shooter for felony discharge of a gun in a residential neighborhood. I heard about it in passing as I am also connected to an email service that is tied to professional drone operators. I have no idea what the result was. As I said, I typically let the neighbors know what I am doing and about how long I will be working. Not everyone answers their doors though. I find the work fun and a bit challenging because there is a lot of skill that goes into getting those shots and realtors can be picky as hell, rightfully so. But I have a license to do what I do. I actually have a gig today. But that is a warehouse with most the shots being inside the building. 300 bucks cash. But I can go weeks between gigs. So 300 bucks for 2 hours work is not bad. Where it gets really fun is the video work. Getting that perfect dynamic swoop and approach can be really fun to shoot.

But protections are there for both parties. You as a homeowner have a right to privacy. So I have to specifically not capture your property in any of my shots, with video, I can grab wide angles which will include your property but I cannot capture people or the inside of a dwelling. I also cannot fly it in such a way that could be deemed as harassment. But merely being over your property line does not legally allow you to shoot at it. You as the property owner have to have reasonable assurance that I have invaded your property. Sight lines show you where my camera lens is pointed.

Drones have been shot down, that is well documented. Fortunately, thus far no drone operator has been shot at or killed. But we live in a whacky place and time. I am firmly of the opinion that it is a matter of time before that happens.

Don't care and Im not reading the novel you just typed. Fly it over my house and you're not getting it back. License or no license, that doesn't mean shit to me. Fly it over both of my neighbors property and the same thing will happen. BTW, you definition of harassment by flying it will be totally different than my definition

[Hellbound]

Shoot first, ask zero questions later

I know people that have cheap, unregistered bullet slingers for that exact reason

[Attyla]

Don't care and Im not reading the novel you just typed. Fly it over my house and you're not getting it back. License or no license, that doesn't mean shit to me. Fly it over both of my neighbors property and the same thing will happen. BTW, you definition of harassment by flying it will be totally different than my definition

They are harder to hit than you think from what I understand. But shoot mine and you are going to jail and I am going to make sure you do. I love all the tough talk, but like I said, I try to let people know that I am there and what I am doing. And I rarely get any push back. And it is not my definition of harassment, it is your state laws that define it. FYI California has some of the toughest add on laws regarding drones in the nation that tack on top of the fed codes. My state has a few but not many.

But wow, another fun topic that touched a nerve, how wonderful.

[raider_kin]

They are harder to hit than you think from what I understand. But shoot mine and you are going to jail and I am going to make sure you do. I love all the tough talk, but like I said, I try to let people know that I am there and what I am doing. And I rarely get any push back. And it is not my definition of harassment, it is your state laws that define it. FYI California has some of the toughest add on laws regarding drones in the nation that tack on top of the fed codes. My state has a few but not many.

But wow, another fun topic that touched a nerve, how wonderful.

Okie dokie Barney Fife.

Relax mate, just trying to lighten things up.

[Hellbound]

They are harder to hit than you think from what I understand. But shoot mine and you are going to jail and I am going to make sure you do. I love all the tough talk, but like I said, I try to let people know that I am there and what I am doing. And I rarely get any push back. And it is not my definition of harassment, it is your state laws that define it. FYI California has some of the toughest add on laws regarding drones in the nation that tack on top of the fed codes. My state has a few but not many.

But wow, another fun topic that touched a nerve, how wonderful.

No nerve struck at all. Just saying how things would work out in my neck of the woods. One day you're going to run across people that don't care what a law says or what type of license you do or don't have. It's not "tough talk" either. It's how things sometimes work where I live

[Reno Hightower]

Don't care and Im not reading the novel you just typed. Fly it over my house and you're not getting it back. License or no license, that doesn't mean shit to me. Fly it over both of my neighbors property and the same thing will happen. BTW, you definition of harassment by flying it will be totally different than my definition

They have really been a game changer in agriculture. We operate a couple of them for site specific aerial applications and diagnostics, they are especially useful on some of my fields that have been encroached by urbanization.

But as with all things you have your dipshits as well. The deliberate invasion of someone's privacy is another matter entirely and my Remington model 870 Wingmaster would settle that issue very quickly.

[Hellbound]

They have really been a game changer in agriculture. We operate a couple of them for site specific aerial applications and diagnostics, they are especially useful on some of my fields that have been encroached by urbanization.

The deliberate invasion of someone's privacy is another matter entirely and my Remington model 870 Wingmaster would settle than issue very quickly.

Oh yeah, I don't have a problem with them at all. I realize it's a hobby and/or job for some people. I especially don't have a problem when law enforcement might need to use them to catch someone and are flying them in & around my yard, which has happened
The only problem I have is when someone starts with the whole, I have a license, the law says I can do this or that etc, etc. It just reminds me of all the idiot auditors that go around and shove their cameras in people's faces and antagonize them. I don't know why it does but it just does

[mstrbass2000]

My house & property has been paid off for 30 years...no need for surveyors...like I said no drone needs to be hoovering 20 ft off the ground in my backyard...if it stays there long enough I will obliterate it & I don't give a shit the consequences...just saying;)

a lot of insurance companies are now using drones to take photos of roofs and look at the property to determine if they wanna insure a home, i had insurance company send a notice that they spotted a dog and needed to verify what breed the dog was to determine if they wanted to re up the policy or not, a friend of mine had his insurance company wanting a tree and and old car removed or else no new policy

i think shooting down a drone from an insurance company is not smart these days

[Attyla]

No nerve struck at all. Just saying how things would work out in my neck of the woods. One day you're going to run across people that don't care what a law says or what type of license you do or don't have. It's not "tough talk" either. It's how things sometimes work where I live

Damn I wish I lived out your way and had ta job to do next to you. Matching bracelets are fun to see gifted.

[Attyla]

Oh yeah, I don't have a problem with them at all. I realize it's a hobby and/or job for some people. I especially don't have a problem when law enforcement might need to use them to catch someone and are flying them in & around my yard, which has happened
The only problem I have is when someone starts with the whole, I have a license, the law says I can do this or that etc, etc. It just reminds me of all the idiot auditors that go around and shove their cameras in people's faces and antagonize them. I don't know why it does but it just does

Cameras are another fun one. Right to film laws are pretty universal. If I am in a public space I can film any and everyone and nobody has a right to privacy in those cases. People get uptight over that all the time but it is just how it is.