Post Game thread - no moral victories, But…

[Willmark]

Don’t believe in moral victories but the Raiders fought till the end.

In years past this team would have folded. It wasn’t perfect, it wasn’t mistake free but we just proved we can go toe to toe with the Chiefs this year.

[Rainman56]

I get the call and wouldn't have minded it in that situation IF and it's a big IF, the offense was the caliber of Seattle last year or KC this year or we had established a strong run game etc. This team still has a ways to go and it was a 50/50 shot at best that we were going to pick up the first down. Hell, we were already settling for field goals throughout the game to that point
This team isn't good enough to take points off of the board. I get wanting to show confidence in your team but sometimes you have to take a step back and make the right decision. It was stupid then, and remains a stupid decision now

Good points,I still like the fact they went for it,hated the playcall though...Was a Gruden special lol

[GoodTimeCharlie]

Actual having a plug & play safety could be a 20 point difference because it makes the whole defence better

The offence & special teams are the reason we lost

Such a shit argument about having no WR’s when we never had much of anything especially defensively

We’ve literally in the last 3 years in the first 2 rounds taken 1 TE, 1 WR, 1 RB, 1 OG & a QB infact if we add in 4 years worth of 1st & 2nd’s it’ll be 6 on offemce 2 on defence & one pf the defensive is gone

But people continue to bitch about taking a guy who has shown so far to look like a starting NFL safety which are few & far between over a WR

This fan base feels really retarded i mean by all means complain if someone isnt doing it but f[raiders_icon]ck me the guys playing well.

I had said that once we suffered a loss a certain sect would start posting with their particular brand of bitterness. Now, not all complainers are he-who-shall-not-be-named-stans, but all he-who-shall-not-be-named-stans are complainers. Except you R&B.

We are 3-1 for f[raiders_icon]ck sake, and a massive reason for that is the Defense. Both Stukes and Masses have made game winning plays for us. Would Boston have? Impossible to say, but I definitely have my doubts he would provide the impact that these rooks have. Shit, the one game Stukes was out we got to see how fk’n important he is for the D.

Here’s another thing, this regime thats gotten us to 3-1. They got us to this point faster than anyone expected. We have improved dramatically due to the choices made by the coaches and FO. Yet here we are with folk still wanting to complain about the moves they made, or didn’t make. Good God man, that’s some ego. Big grotesquely inflated balls.

I understand how some, myself included, thought we could do a better job than previous regimes, but this one??? Na, not for me this go around. This regime is absolutely knockin’ it out of the park. Whether that’s their decision to sit Mendo til they think he’s ready, or not trading picks/breaking the bank for a talented but aging WR, or drafting Stukes instead of Boston.

Go Raiders!!!

[Reno Hightower]

I had said that once we suffered a loss a certain sect would start posting with their particular brand of bitterness. Now, not all complainers are he-who-shall-not-be-named -stans, but all he-who-shall-not-be-named -stans are complainers. Except you R&B

We are 3-1 for f[raiders_icon]ck sake, and a massive reason for that is the Defense. Both Stukes and Masses have made game winning plays for us. Would Boston have? Impossible to say, but I definitely have my doubts he would provide the impact that these rooks have. Shit, the one game Stukes was out we got to see how fk’n important he is for the D.

Here’s another thing, this regime thats gotten us to 3-1. They got us to this point faster than anyone expected. We have improved dramatically due to the choices made by the coaches and FO. Yet here we are with folk still wanting to complain about the moves they made, or didn’t make. Good God man, that’s some ego. Big grotesquely inflated balls.

I understand how some, myself included, thought we could do a better job than previous regimes, but this one??? Na, not for me this go around. This regime is absolutely knockin’ it out of the park. Whether that’s their decision sit Mendo til they think he’s ready, or not trading picks/breaking the bank for a talented but aging WR, or drafting Stukes instead of Boston.

Go Raiders!!!

Well said Chuck.

[raiderboyron]

For any who didn't get to see the game, replay at 11:00 am pacific on NFL Network Wednesday.

[raiders93]

When you think of Tyreek, are you imagining 2018-23?

Pretty sure I watched his knee explode and don’t think he will come close to being old Hill.

Yeah in the scope of potential chiefs moves, Tyreeks not an oh shit one in my books. He already looked like he lost a step before his toes touched his knee. Speed generally doesn’t age well in any case.

[powski]

I'd like to see what Zuhn can do at one of the guard positions. What was out there last sunday was not quality

Me too. But he must look worse than the starters in practice, or not noticeably better. I think they give the current starters
a longer leash and hope they can at least be competent. Or design plays that work better around their limitations. I don't know. I am not impressed and do not expect them to play better. I just want their floor to be a little higher. Seeing Jeanty consistently hit behind line of scrimmage is so aggravating. Part of that is how aggressively defenses are selling out vs run, which Cousins has taken advantage of. I don't know if it's sustainable. 270-300 yard 2-3 td Cousins and +2/3 turnover winner every week probably isn't. Need to figure out the run game to hang in there long term.

[mstrbass2000]

When you think of Tyreek, are you imagining 2018-23?

Pretty sure I watched his knee explode and don’t think he will come close to being old Hill.

well hw looks damn good in recent videos and apparently kc like what they saw too...people tend to forget in his last season as a dolphin he still played well for a crappy team before injury

[WNYRAIDER]

well hw looks damn good in recent videos and apparently kc like what they saw too...people tend to forget in his last season as a dolphin he still played well for a crappy team before injury

...people also tend to forget that the pile completely quit on his team mid game, and which might work for a desperate Andy, and with his familiarity with what they do, but not so much for guys like kk, and many others, who know full well that if it looks life a trd, and smells like a trd, ....

[Atlasffa]

[SkullCrusher]

It's because Tony is gone. :)

[Atlasffa]

[Atlasffa]

Leadership matters, especially after a loss.

[mstrbass2000]

...people also tend to forget that the pile completely quit on his team mid game, and which might work for a desperate Andy, and with his familiarity with what they do, but not so much for guys like kk, and many others, who know full well that if it looks life a trd, and smells like a trd, ....

i think is tyreek is even 80 pct of his former self it worth it to keep him away from andy and patrick

[FLORIDARAYDAH]

i think is tyreek is even 80 pct of his former self it worth it to keep him away from andy and patrick

You keep mentioning keep him away. I don't think he has any interest in the Raiders nor do we in him.

[WNYRAIDER]

You keep mentioning keep him away. I don't think he has any interest in the Raiders nor do we in him.

...nor do I suspect the raiders powers that be are in the sign a trd so as to keep him away from Andy business at this time.....