New coach ………. Again

[Raidernation1979]

What’s your thoughts? I prefer young offensive minded with a fresh DC. Kubiak, Cooter, Kafka and pair them with someone like Al Harris as the DC.

[Attyla]

Nepotism is fairly common in the NFL. Obviously nepotism is not a good thing in really any industry and im not a fan of Brennan either. But this isn’t unique to Pete at all. Grudens son worked here too.

And it works both ways. Callahan hired his dad. So did Kiffin. Gruden's kid is still with the Raiders, but that may be because the owner needs his Gruden fix and his boy toy had to resign.

[chucker]

Nepotism is fairly common in the NFL. Obviously nepotism is not a good thing in really any industry and im not a fan of Brennan either. But this isn’t unique to Pete at all. Grudens son worked here too.

IMO there's a big difference between hiring your son in a less important position than hiring him as Oline coach. I never had a problem with Deuce Gruden, or with Pierce's son on staff. You can't hire someone for a key position, unless you're prepared to fire him if the results suck. The results suck. By the way, Gruden's son has actually survived through multiple staffs since Jon Gruden left so maybe he's not that bad - but he's also not in a key position.

[Sold My Soul]

Nepotism is fairly common in the NFL. Obviously nepotism is not a good thing in really any industry and im not a fan of Brennan either. But this isn’t unique to Pete at all. Grudens son worked here too.

But not in a critical position. Lil Petey's turned our O-line into an absolute abortion. Proving once again he shouldn't have an NFL job, and once fired along with gramps will become reality.

[Sold My Soul]

IMO there's a big difference between hiring your son in a less important position than hiring him as Oline coach. I never had a problem with Deuce Gruden, or with Pierce's son on staff. You can't hire someone for a key position, unless you're prepared to fire him if the results suck. The results suck. By the way, Gruden's son has actually survived through multiple staffs since Jon Gruden left so maybe he's not that bad - but he's also not in a key position.

Chuck, we were mentally connecting.

[Hellbound]

Nepotism is fairly common in the NFL. Obviously nepotism is not a good thing in really any industry and im not a fan of Brennan either. But this isn’t unique to Pete at all. Grudens son worked here too.

Nepotism is a thing yes. Usually kids are hired for low level positions unless they are qualified for a high level job. Neither of his two kids would still be in the positions they are in if they were on another staff

[raiders93]

IMO there's a big difference between hiring your son in a less important position than hiring him as Oline coach. I never had a problem with Deuce Gruden, or with Pierce's son on staff. You can't hire someone for a key position, unless you're prepared to fire him if the results suck. The results suck. By the way, Gruden's son has actually survived through multiple staffs since Jon Gruden left so maybe he's not that bad - but he's also not in a key position.

Just to clarify, That wasn’t a commentary that we should fire Deuce or keep Brennan. I agree with you - I think the hire was a bad decision with a clear conflict of interest scenario.

All im saying is I doubt that’s a major factor in Pete getting fired (assuming he does). Particularly because it’s not uncommon to hire family and there’s a fairly sound arguement that Brennan was qualified on paper. It’d be one thing if Pete hired his son, the Ball Boy, to run our o-line. His son has been an o-line coach between college and pros for the last 10 years though.

Just making the distinction between a bad hire because it’s a conflict of interest vs bad hire because it’s a totally unqualified candidate. Pete and Brennan is the former… the latter is far more egregious imo.

[raiders93]

Nepotism is a thing yes. Usually kids are hired for low level positions unless they are qualified for a high level job. Neither of his two kids would still be in the positions they are in if they were on another staff

Brennan was the o-line coach and o-coordinator at Arizona university and Washington university over the last 5 years. Was he the most qualified we could find - probably not. Hard to say he’s unqualified though

[chucker]

Brennan was the o-line coach and o-coordinator at Arizona university and Washington university over the last 5 years. Was he the most qualified we could find - probably not. Hard to say he’s unqualified though

He has some qualifications. However it's not like Bill Callahan getting hired as oline coach by his own son - with the elder Callahan being widely recognized as one of the best oline coaches in the game. Brennan Carroll was absolutely a question mark as the leader of a key NFL position group. What really needed to happen is that someone from above needed to veto this choice.

[Sold My Soul]

I'm going to tuck this post in here. It was recently posted by the Athletic by Michael Silver.

I won't post the entire article but just excerpts as it has a paywall. It's a lengthy article.

Can anyone save the Raiders? It’s time for Tom Brady to try

.....The Raiders need a lot of help. They need a leader. They need the front-office equivalent of a tough, hyper-competitive, ruthless quarterback staring down the opposition and acting large and in charge.

It’s time for Tom Brady to come out of the shadows.

......Brady, since becoming a minority owner in October 2024, has been in a prime position to influence organizational decisions. Depending on what you read and whom you talk to — and trust me, there are plenty of people in the Raiders’ organization who aren’t sure which calls are being made by whom — Brady is being treated by owner Mark Davis as the de facto boss when it comes to football matters.

Yet Brady, in addition to being very busy, lives in Florida and thus far has displayed no desire to be the frontman in Sin City. At times, he has literally hovered in the background; during the Raiders’ Week 2 home defeat to the Los Angeles Chargers, Brady was spotted in the second row of the Vegas coaching booth wearing a headset.

.....If anything, Brady has gone out of his way to act like he’s not in charge, such as when he was asked on the “Impaulsive” podcast last May to comment on Shedeur Sanders’ draft slide and said, “I wasn’t part of any evaluation process.”

That detached-observer vibe is hard to reconcile with the reality that the Raiders chose not to pursue Sam Darnold in free agency last spring because Brady wasn’t a fan, as I reported in June.

....That’s why, selfishly, I want him to drop everything, march into Allegiant Stadium with that savage look in his eye and announce that he’s the new Emperor of Raider Nation.

...Brady, in my opinion, would also kick ass and take names. It might not be instantaneous, but I believe he’d help the Raiders recall their glory days from the ‘60s, ‘70s and ‘80s.

.....They have maybe four players (edge rusher Maxx Crosby, tight end Brock Bowers, left tackle Kolton Miller and rookie running back Ashton Jeanty)

.....Presumably, Brady will be involved in those evaluations. The way things are set up now, however, it’s hard to tell.

After the 2024 season, there were reports that Brady was targeting Ben Johnson as the Raiders’ next coach and Matthew Stafford (with whom he had a fortuitous meeting on the ski slopes) as Vegas’ quarterback. Johnson rejected the Raiders’ overtures and instead took a job with the Chicago Bears, who just won their first NFC North title since 2018. Stafford elected to head back up the lift and continue his run with the Los Angeles Rams; he’s a leading MVP candidate for the playoff-bound team.

In each case, Brady didn’t seem to have a great Plan B. Then again, no one is sure exactly how much influence he wielded as the process played out.

.....What role, for example, did Brady play in the decision to hire then-73-year-old Pete Carroll to coach a team clearly in need of a protracted rebuild? Who spearheaded the ill-fated move to make Chip Kelly the league’s highest-paid offensive coordinator, or to trade a third-round pick to the Seattle Seahawks for quarterback Geno Smith (and to give Smith a two-year, $75-million extension, more annually than Darnold would have cost)?

Were those Brady’s calls? Did Davis, the primary owner desperate for Brady’s guidance, weigh in? Were first-year general manager John Spytek and Carroll granted the authority to do what they felt was best?

Plenty of people who work under Spytek, Carroll and Davis don’t know the answer to those questions.

....Similarly, it wasn’t clear who made the call to shut down Crosby last Friday, a move that compelled the aggrieved edge rusher to leave the team’s training facility in a huff. Spytek delivered the news.

.....Is Crosby fed up enough to ask for a trade? If so, who could blame him? The Raiders, who need draft picks in April like casinos need air conditioning in August, would likely accommodate that request.

And if Crosby wants to stay? It’s quite possible they’ll shop him anyway.

...Quick turnarounds are possible in the NFL, and perhaps the Raiders really are a coach and franchise quarterback away from becoming competitive. That seems far-fetched, but so was the idea of a sixth-round draft pick who spent his rookie season as the Patriots’ fourth-string quarterback leading them to one of the biggest upsets in football history to end his second season, dropping the curtains on the Greatest Show on Turf.

Where have you gone, Undaunted Assassin Tom Brady?

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/692674 ... d=14677638

[KillerRaider30]

But not in a critical position. Lil Petey's turned our O-line into an absolute abortion. Proving once again he shouldn't have an NFL job, and once fired along with gramps will become reality.

Fixing the oline with a mid QB gets you 4-8 wins. See Derek Carr and his "Carr insurance"
Is that what we want?
In order
1. Get a QB
2. Fix the oline
See Chicago
Pete knows what hes doing

[KillerRaider30]

Or we overestimated Pete's ability to form a competent staff and his ability as a hc

Hiring a competent staff is possible but fielding a team with this lack of talent probably trumps coaching.

I ask myself if we had a franchise QB would we have 2?

No is my gut.

[Attyla]

Fixing the oline with a mid QB gets you 4-8 wins. See Derek Carr and his "Carr insurance"
Is that what we want?
In order
1. Get a QB
2. Fix the oline
See Chicago
Pete knows what hes doing

I agree with the process, I even agree with one model for how to get it done. I am unsure about the conclusion. It seems like Carroll is falling into the QB by error. Nobody could have intentionally and continuously lost these games not knowing if or who was going to emerge in the draft. We even used a 3rd rounder to get Pete's select QB and that failed. Do you use a day 2 pick to get a failure at QB? If we had intended to get the first overall pick we could have kept Minshew.

I do not buy Carroll did this all intentionally. I think we were just inept. If that were not the case, we would not have hired and fired the most expensive coordinator who we are going to pay for a few more years. I do not see a plan, I see oops we f[raiders_icon]cked up.

[BoKnows81]

I'm going to tuck this post in here. It was recently posted by the Athletic by Michael Silver.

I won't post the entire article but just excerpts as it has a paywall. It's a lengthy article.

Can anyone save the Raiders? It’s time for Tom Brady to try

.....The Raiders need a lot of help. They need a leader. They need the front-office equivalent of a tough, hyper-competitive, ruthless quarterback staring down the opposition and acting large and in charge.

It’s time for Tom Brady to come out of the shadows.

......Brady, since becoming a minority owner in October 2024, has been in a prime position to influence organizational decisions. Depending on what you read and whom you talk to — and trust me, there are plenty of people in the Raiders’ organization who aren’t sure which calls are being made by whom — Brady is being treated by owner Mark Davis as the de facto boss when it comes to football matters.

Yet Brady, in addition to being very busy, lives in Florida and thus far has displayed no desire to be the frontman in Sin City. At times, he has literally hovered in the background; during the Raiders’ Week 2 home defeat to the Los Angeles Chargers, Brady was spotted in the second row of the Vegas coaching booth wearing a headset.

.....If anything, Brady has gone out of his way to act like he’s not in charge, such as when he was asked on the “Impaulsive” podcast last May to comment on Shedeur Sanders’ draft slide and said, “I wasn’t part of any evaluation process.”

That detached-observer vibe is hard to reconcile with the reality that the Raiders chose not to pursue Sam Darnold in free agency last spring because Brady wasn’t a fan, as I reported in June.

....That’s why, selfishly, I want him to drop everything, march into Allegiant Stadium with that savage look in his eye and announce that he’s the new Emperor of Raider Nation.

...Brady, in my opinion, would also kick ass and take names. It might not be instantaneous, but I believe he’d help the Raiders recall their glory days from the ‘60s, ‘70s and ‘80s.

.....They have maybe four players (edge rusher Maxx Crosby, tight end Brock Bowers, left tackle Kolton Miller and rookie running back Ashton Jeanty)

.....Presumably, Brady will be involved in those evaluations. The way things are set up now, however, it’s hard to tell.

After the 2024 season, there were reports that Brady was targeting Ben Johnson as the Raiders’ next coach and Matthew Stafford (with whom he had a fortuitous meeting on the ski slopes) as Vegas’ quarterback. Johnson rejected the Raiders’ overtures and instead took a job with the Chicago Bears, who just won their first NFC North title since 2018. Stafford elected to head back up the lift and continue his run with the Los Angeles Rams; he’s a leading MVP candidate for the playoff-bound team.

In each case, Brady didn’t seem to have a great Plan B. Then again, no one is sure exactly how much influence he wielded as the process played out.

.....What role, for example, did Brady play in the decision to hire then-73-year-old Pete Carroll to coach a team clearly in need of a protracted rebuild? Who spearheaded the ill-fated move to make Chip Kelly the league’s highest-paid offensive coordinator, or to trade a third-round pick to the Seattle Seahawks for quarterback Geno Smith (and to give Smith a two-year, $75-million extension, more annually than Darnold would have cost)?

Were those Brady’s calls? Did Davis, the primary owner desperate for Brady’s guidance, weigh in? Were first-year general manager John Spytek and Carroll granted the authority to do what they felt was best?

Plenty of people who work under Spytek, Carroll and Davis don’t know the answer to those questions.

....Similarly, it wasn’t clear who made the call to shut down Crosby last Friday, a move that compelled the aggrieved edge rusher to leave the team’s training facility in a huff. Spytek delivered the news.

.....Is Crosby fed up enough to ask for a trade? If so, who could blame him? The Raiders, who need draft picks in April like casinos need air conditioning in August, would likely accommodate that request.

And if Crosby wants to stay? It’s quite possible they’ll shop him anyway.

...Quick turnarounds are possible in the NFL, and perhaps the Raiders really are a coach and franchise quarterback away from becoming competitive. That seems far-fetched, but so was the idea of a sixth-round draft pick who spent his rookie season as the Patriots’ fourth-string quarterback leading them to one of the biggest upsets in football history to end his second season, dropping the curtains on the Greatest Show on Turf.

Where have you gone, Undaunted Assassin Tom Brady?

A Nation turns its lonely eyes to you.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/692674 ... d=14677638

Great f[raiders_icon]cking article and I couldn't agree more

[Attyla]

Great fcking article and I couldn't agree more

Anything to get him out of the booth and anything to get my Raiders relevant

[raiders93]

Anything to get him out of the booth and anything to get my Raiders relevant

Giving up the broadcast booth is the big one. Right now it seems like, at best, he’s a casual consultant for a couple assignments in the offseason. Last year it was Ben Johnson and Stafford apparently.