Our Next Head Coach

GoodTimeCharlie · Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:34 am

What’s your type?

Sir Raider Duck, OMS · Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:16 am

[quote=Black Sunshine post_id=1168766]Those are exceptions to the rule and are incredibly rare.

Belichick was a retread 23 years ago
Carroll was 13 years ago
Reid was ridiculously successful for a long time in Philly and everyone wanted him once they let him go.

The vast majority of retreads suck balls.[/quote]The vast majority of NFL head coaching hire suck balls and are gone in 2-3 seasons. The successful NFL head coaching hire is the EXCEPTION, not the rule.

Black Sunshine · Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:21 am

[quote=Xramfan post_id=1168775]Majority of Chiefs fans wanted Reid fired until they got Mahomes. Suddenly he was a guru lol[/quote]Alex Smith balled the f[raiders_icon]ck out with Reid. Chiefs fans are dumb.

Xramfan · Unread post by **Xramfan** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:26 am

[quote=Black Sunshine post_id=1168782]Alex Smith balled the f[raiders_icon]ck out with Reid. Chiefs fans are dumb.[/quote]But if you recall they were continuous 1 and done playoff contenders and the fans began to believe Reid was a post season choker. The Kermit took over and here we are.

NoClapsPlease · Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:39 am

[quote=1968 GTO post_id=1167385]I'd like Deion Sanders.[/quote]God doesn’t love the raiders enough for this to happen

NoClapsPlease · Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:40 am

[quote=BoKnows81 post_id=1167396]Deion's style will never fly in the NFL[/quote]His style would be perfect for the NFL.

Sir Raider Duck, OMS · Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:42 am

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1168804]His style would be perfect for the NFL.[/quote]Disagree. A lot of his rah-rah stuff won't play with jaded 30-year-old veterans. What works with impressionable youngsters doesn't always work with NFL vets.

Black Sunshine · Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:44 am

[quote=Xramfan post_id=1168784]But if you recall they were continuous 1 and done playoff contenders and the fans began to believe Reid was a post season choker. The Kermit took over and here we are.[/quote]Yeah having a video game cheat code as a QB helps but Reid was still objectively a very good coach. I get that people were stupidly acting like he was the problem but dude took a broken Alex Smith and made him a pretty good QB for awhile. Chiefs fans were just so broken by Marty Shottenheimer that they freaked out when they weren't making deep playoff runs with good teams. I guess I understand their thoughts in that situation.

NoClapsPlease · Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:46 am

[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1168809]Disagree. A lot of his rah-rah stuff won't play with jaded 30-year-old veterans. What works with impressionable youngsters doesn't always work with NFL vets.[/quote]The thing about the rah-rah stuff is, it doesn’t work when it’s a guy with close to zero clout trying to do it

Deion’s impact on the game and how he can relate to the players, makes his “rah rah” hit a lot different than a “rah rah” from a coach mcdaniels.

Sir Raider Duck, OMS · Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:49 am

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1168812]The thing about the rah-rah stuff is, it doesn’t work when it’s a guy with close to zero clout trying to do it

Deion’s impact on the game and how he can relate to the players, makes his “rah rah” hit a lot different than a “rah rah” from a coach mcdaniels.[/quote]Bobby Petrino, Nick Saban, Greg Schiano, and Ray McPherson (to name four off the top of my head) were all widely respected college coaches whose acts completely failed in the NFL.

I'm not saying Deion's act would fail in the NFL. We simply don't know that. Jimmy Johnson, for instance, was very successful jumping from the college ranks and so was Pete Carroll (although Carroll had had previous NFL HC experience). My point is that it's a major unknown whether he could effectively motive NFL veterans.

Jeevo · Unread post by **Jeevo** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:52 am

[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1168814]Bobby Petrino, Nick Saban, Greg Schiano, and Ray McPherson (to name four off the top of my head) were all widely respected college coaches whose acts completely failed in the NFL.

I'm not saying Deion's act would fail in the NFL. We simply don't know that. Jimmy Johnson, for instance, was very successful jumping from the college ranks and so was Pete Carroll (although Carroll had had previous NFL HC experience). My point is that it's a major unknown whether he could effectively motive NFL veterans.[/quote]You missed the biggest flop, Urban Meyer.

NoClapsPlease · Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:05 am

[quote=Sir Raider Duck, OMS post_id=1168814]Bobby Petrino, Nick Saban, Greg Schiano, and Ray McPherson (to name four off the top of my head) were all widely respected college coaches whose acts completely failed in the NFL.

I'm not saying Deion's act would fail in the NFL. We simply don't know that. Jimmy Johnson, for instance, was very successful jumping from the college ranks and so was Pete Carroll (although Carroll had had previous NFL HC experience). My point is that it's a major unknown whether he could effectively motive NFL veterans.[/quote]This idea that 30 year men can’t be motivated is false.

None of those guys you’ve mentioned are relatable or looked up to. Their careers are respected, but do players look up to any of the folks you mentioned? No.

Every corner or DB to come out in the last 30 years, literally wants to be Deion. He set the standard. any linebacker that wants to be good at coverage, looks up to Deion. Literally anyone on the field that wants to be a playmaker, wants to have a little bit of deions game in them - so I’d be a fool to think he couldn’t step in and motivate NFL players at a much higher level than the failed, unrelateable, college coaches you’ve mentioned.

Attyla · Unread post by **Attyla** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:11 am

Sanders is not ever going to be a NFL coach. He has struggled with health issues and he gets to work less hours in college. His best skill is as a recruiter. He has been very successful getting guys he wants. At the pro level, while that skill helps some, the money drives the market far more and coaches have little control over the money, especially new coaches. Sanders has even said himself that he does not want to be a pro coach. And while I get it that some of you think his coaching style translates to the next level, I have my doubts.

BoJacksonRules · Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:19 am

I’d be happy with a dominant Front 4

SkullCrusher · Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:12 am

[quote=Jeevo post_id=1168817]You missed the biggest flop, Urban Meyer.[/quote]He flopped on purpose, took the contract and ran.

Hellbound · Unread post by **Hellbound** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:33 am

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1168825]This idea that 30 year men can’t be motivated is false.

None of those guys you’ve mentioned are relatable or looked up to. Their careers are respected, but do players look up to any of the folks you mentioned? No.

Every corner or DB to come out in the last 30 years, literally wants to be Deion. He set the standard. any linebacker that wants to be good at coverage, looks up to Deion. Literally anyone on the field that wants to be a playmaker, wants to have a little bit of deions game in them - so I’d be a fool to think he couldn’t step in and motivate NFL players at a much higher level than the failed, unrelateable, college coaches you’ve mentioned.[/quote]He said himself he'd have a hard time motivating NFL players

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