Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Twoutrally]

[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1130576]I love McD although many don’t..the fact that he got in the princess ass in film and on the sideline on occasion makes me love him even more

I don’t think we appreciate McD and Z enough for finally being the ones to say “RaiderNation can’t win with this guy”

I’m not good at gifs and memes..anyone have that one of McD pointing to his head and getting in Derek’s shit on the sideline?

[/quote]This is so Funny! Name a QB McBum has won with other then the GOAT?

[Attyla]

[quote=Twoutrally post_id=1131677]This is so Funny! Name a QB McBum has won with other then the GOAT?[/quote]Cassell. Took the back up to the playoffs

[HesterLayes]

Took a rookie Mac Jones to the playoffs last year

[Twoutrally]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1131678]Cassell. Took the back up to the playoffs[/quote]The former Patriots' offensive coordinator's track record without Tom Brady has been inconsistent. Without the legend running the show, he hasn't finished with a passing offense top ten in DVOA or EPA. Not one quarterback has ended with a rating over 95, with the highest YPA at 7.3.

[Twoutrally]

[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1131679]Took a rookie Mac Jones to the playoffs last year[/quote]And Lost!

[Attyla]

[quote=Twoutrally post_id=1131681]The former Patriots' offensive coordinator's track record without Tom Brady has been inconsistent. Without the legend running the show, he hasn't finished with a passing offense top ten in DVOA or EPA. Not one quarterback has ended with a rating over 95, with the highest YPA at 7.3.[/quote]moving the goalposts again I see. Even when you ask the question, if the answer does not support your theory, you change the parameters.

[Attyla]

[quote=Twoutrally post_id=1131682]And Lost![/quote]your becoming one of the worst posters around here. You asked:

Name a QB McBum has won with other then the GOAT?

You got two names to answer the question. Then you could not accept the answer because your agenda was not fulfilled.

Debate skills are just not in your wheelhouse.

[HesterLayes]

[quote=Twoutrally post_id=1131682]And Lost![/quote]Go follow the saints.you’re unbearable.

I’ve been using ignore a lot lately.It’s wonderful.Goodbye

[Attyla]

Just a heads up, the deal is in place to trade Derek to the Saints, all the elements are agreed upon. It now falls to the Saints to actually agree to the trade, for Derek to agree to waive his no trade clause and for the Saints to clear out the necessary cap space.

This will happen repeatedly for all teams looking at Derek in that order. Before Derek can talk to a team, the two sides will hammer out the compensation first, then Derek can begin talking to the teams. At this point, it appears Derek is willing to waive his no trade and it appears teams are willing to pull off a deal rather than compete in free agency.

There is also some scuttlebutt that if the process drags on (a new wrinkle) that Derek will reverse course and extend the deadline. This part is not likely, but since it has been discussed, I asked and was told "maybe"

[Attyla]

FYI this is just speculation on my friend's part but we get the 29th pick for Carr

Then there is a swapping of of day three picks.

Again, pure speculation but he says that is the value he is hearing for Derek

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[quote=Attyla post_id=1131688]FYI this is just speculation on my friend's part but we get the 29th pick for Carr

Then there is a swapping of of day three picks.

Again, pure speculation but he says that is the value he is hearing for Derek[/quote]I guess when factoring in both parts of that, you get the value of a second round pick, which is what most thought would be what the Raiders would get IF they were able to trade him. I think anything the Raiders manage, is gravy, so I would be happy with this deal.

P.S. Count me as one who never thought a trade would happen. So, I will be pleasantly surprised with any trade announced.

[Attyla]

[quote=signal post_id=1131689]I guess when factoring in both parts of that, you get the value of a second round pick, which is what most thought would be what the Raiders would get IF they were able to trade him. I think anything the Raiders manage, is gravy, so I would be happy with this deal.

P.S. Count me as one who never thought a trade would happen. So, I will be pleasantly surprised with any trade announced.[/quote]absolutely. With Miami going to forfeit their first rounder, it gives us a bit of a hop but not much. Of course this all only happens if the three things that preceed it happen. They have to agree to actually do the deal, Derek has to waive his no trade and they have to clear out the cap space. I do not think the third thing has to happen until the league new year so they would have time to get that piece done but they can do it. I would be surprised though, if this is the last stop on the Derek Trade Tour.

[JRaider17]

One more week.

[Ordos]

[quote=Attyla post_id=1131688]FYI this is just speculation on my friend's part but we get the 29th pick for Carr

Then there is a swapping of of day three picks.

Again, pure speculation but he says that is the value he is hearing for Derek[/quote]The Saints are kind of playing with house money on the 29, as it was not in their plans to have it available. And if that gets them over the edge...

Loomis can rework contracts and cap; he always does. But being so far over the cap now, I doubt they'd be able to play in FA against the other clubs for Derek's services. To get him, the best way is to trade, even if it costs more.

Now it's up to DA to sell Derek on it.

[Amish Cabal]

My first laugh of the morning.

RaiderCode
Perfect match. Carr can get the same head coach fired from 2 different teams.