Emo Andy Dalton after a trip to Sephora on Groundhog Day (Carr thread)

[RaiderandBulldog]

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[Boknows1]

[quote=Dark Horse post_id=1119274]You all are really struggling with change. So the Raiders should have gotten Carr injured and further destroyed the moral of the team with his cowardly play, got it.[/quote]Carr is not injury prone. He has only ended one season injured. The team will lose both games with Stidham anyways.

[VEfreak]

[quote=Boknows1 post_id=1119276]Carr is not injury prone. He has only ended one season injured. The team will lose both games with Stidham anyways.[/quote]They couldn’t afford to even take the risk of him getting injured. It was good risk management. The upside is that if stidham plays well again we get to end the season with two games of good quarterback play.

[Jeevo]

[quote=HesterLayes post_id=1119049]Carr is no longer a Raider.How many threads do we need about an ex-player?Lock ‘em up [/quote]He's still in the team's employ for a while yet but I'm betting there'll be a locking and moving Carr threads frenzy when it's official. I'll do it all myself if I get the chance.

[Dark Horse]

[quote=Boknows1 post_id=1119276]Carr is not injury prone. He has only ended one season injured. The team will lose both games with Stidham anyways.[/quote]"Injury prone?"
Don't ever become a businessman.

[Raiders Baby]

[quote=Raiders Baby post_id=1116384]And then, instead of applying logic and saying “oh ya that offense did look different than it has the last 16 weeks” Carr fans will go “I knew it, I knew it! McDaniels sabotaged Carr!”[/quote]Called this shit — seen this take way more than once on social media, and it’s probably lurking around here too

[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=VEfreak post_id=1119203]Do you have a source to corroborate that? Hue is a f[raiders_icon]cking snake that would throw his own grandma under a bus to save his own skin.[/quote]Hue is a snake based on what exactly?

Why would he sit up there and just lie like that?

On some super obscure interview with a random YouTuber? Lmao - what would be the purpose?

[Dark Horse]

[quote=Raiders Baby post_id=1119311]Called this shit — seen this take way more than once on social media, and it’s probably lurking around here too[/quote]Breh they spammed their game plan way ahead of time.

[tadow]

Carr traded for anything=Goodest
Carr released for nothing=Gooder
Carr retires=Good
Raiders win in every scenario.

[Dark Horse]

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1119317]Hue is a snake based on what exactly?

Why would he sit up there and just lie like that?

On some super obscure interview with a random YouTuber? Lmao - what would be the purpose?[/quote]Are you kidding me? Hue was a snake long before he made that statement. He is a self promoter because he has to be. He's screwed over so many people. no one will go to bat for him. I remember when Derek Hagan took a leadership roll and made the younger receivers start studying film in the evening rather than play video games. His reward was getting cut for an ancient, retired T. J. Houshmandzadeh

[NoClapsPlease]

So I posted an interview with Hue literally saying “Mark made that trade” and some rather. Believe what the common sentiment was based on a loose association of hue being palmer’s coach in college and coordinator in Cincinnati, when the reality is MARK leveraged Hues relationship to broker the deal behind the scenes.

Come on fellas - accept the truth. There’s a reason why he reached back out to Campbell later when he went to the Browns. He has nothing to gain lying to this random YouTuber


https://youtu.be/aSZshiq6Ja0

[NoClapsPlease]

[quote=Dark Horse post_id=1119322]Are you kidding me? Hue was a snake long before he made that statement.[/quote]Tell me why he’s a snake.

“Bc I don’t like him” isn’t a good enough answer, either”

[Boknows1]

[quote=tadow post_id=1119320]Carr traded for anything=Goodest
Carr released for nothing=Gooder
Carr retires=Good
Raiders win in every scenario.[/quote]McD and Z never wanted Carr with the contract extension they gave him. They were better off just trading him to the Colts for 2 first founders before the season started.

[JRaider17]

As is probably obvious, the Raiders’ decision to move off Derek Carr wasn’t just about getting a chance to evaluate Jarrett Stidham. Or really about that much at all. It was about protecting the team from an injury guarantee of $40.4 million vesting, in case Carr got hurt and couldn’t pass a physical in mid-February. So between now and Feb. 15 (if Carr’s on the roster that day at 4 p.m. ET, the $40.4 million becomes fully guaranteed), the Raiders will seek a resolution to move their quarterback of nine years off the roster. Why? Well, there are a few reasons for it, beyond just his 63–79 record as a starter, which, to be fair, is in part on him and in part a product of his surroundings.

• The first issue, as I understand it, connects to his fit with a new culture that draws hard lines on toughness and accountability. The second and third can be drawn from there.

• On the former—toughness—Carr has had a reputation for not hanging in the pocket, letting plays develop and taking a hit to strike downfield. That showed at times. One was against the Steelers in Week 16, on third-and-5 in the fourth quarter, with 3:07 left. The Steelers got pushed up the middle and rather than hold the ball and buy time, Carr quickly threw it over Davante Adams’s head and into the bench area—when Adams was in single coverage and would’ve had a chance to make a play downfield. Other issues from earlier in his career (like his ability to play in the cold) resurfaced, as well.

• On the latter—accountability—there was a feeling, among coaches and players, that Carr hadn’t shouldered his share of the blame for the mountain of close losses that piled up over the weeks, with the Thursday-night loss to the Rams, a prime example.

• The fourth element I could ascertain was an ability to make the plays to turn close losses into wins, with Carr missing a wide-open Hunter Renfrow high on his game-sealing pick in Pittsburgh as the most recent example.

• And fifth, and this relates back to knowing when to take risks with the ball, is how much the Raiders were able to get from Adams in his first season. Adams’s numbers, to be sure, were fantastic with Carr in there (88 catches, 1,290 yards, 12 TDs). But even still, there was a lot of meat left on the bone with Vegas’s headlining acquisition of 2022.

So what’s next? My sense would be there’ll be a market for Carr. The Jets, Commanders and Panthers are three teams that should be looking, with teams that are ready to win now, and Carr would join Jimmy Garoppolo in a class of free-agent quarterbacks with experience and, almost certainly, an ability to come in and improve the position quickly. As for the Raiders, my sense would be they’ll give Carr’s camp permission to seek a trade ahead of the mid-February deadline, to see whether they can get anything for him. And if Carr isn’t inclined to help the team after all this (definitely possible), he could well sit on his hands, wield his no-trade clause and force them to cut him. After that, my understanding is the Raiders will look hard at the idea of bringing in Tom Brady or Jimmy Garoppolo, with their connections to Josh McDaniels and Dave Ziegler. Either way, for the Raiders and Carr, it’s over.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/01/02/week- ... -watt-mmqb

Breer has a lot of sources with Pats people so this is coming from our next staff for sure.

[Dark Horse]

[quote=NoClapsPlease post_id=1119324]So I posted an interview with Hue literally saying “Mark made that trade” and some rather. Believe what the common sentiment was based on a loose association of hue being palmer’s coach in college and coordinator in Cincinnati, when the reality is MARK leveraged Hues relationship to broker the deal behind the scenes.

Come on fellas - accept the truth. There’s a reason why he reached back out to Campbell later when he went to the Browns. He has nothing to gain lying to this random YouTuber


https://youtu.be/aSZshiq6Ja0[/quote] He is lying! Mark negotiated a trade? Man, you can't be this gullible. Hue Jackson facilitated that trade! Hue was his former coach and I thought he was going to wet his panties taking about him. Hue was trying to preserve HIS job.

[Raiders Baby]

[quote=Dark Horse post_id=1119318]Breh they spammed their game plan way ahead of time.[/quote]It’s true, they aren’t the most subtle bunch